From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by 10.236.95.168 with SMTP id p28cs95775yhf; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <9front+bncCMnN582LARC8ya7yBBoEZLhXPw@googlegroups.com> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 9front+bncCMnN582LARC8ya7yBBoEZLhXPw@googlegroups.com designates 10.220.193.137 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.220.193.137; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of 9front+bncCMnN582LARC8ya7yBBoEZLhXPw@googlegroups.com designates 10.220.193.137 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=9front+bncCMnN582LARC8ya7yBBoEZLhXPw@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=9front+bncCMnN582LARC8ya7yBBoEZLhXPw@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.220.193.137]) by 10.220.193.137 with SMTP id du9mr886801vcb.39.1313580225460 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:23:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-sasl-enc:date:from:to:subject:message-id :in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1z8+CWddIoeTNao+pg4yxjrd0ZmTi/lpkajAzZdov7Y=; b=jOm35MY8H9SoKNuv4YQ5K9s+oEL9RUxPpTlXnOleD2z8DkWK+1I3Fuf8ZgzeXzOp8k iCfriuuOCKzsr9oyzsjKvvcZnyLPxGYmovfQhDFn21HH6Z93QERzCiDsDdTfpDxcKmvT BCIOWEBwCx98FdO2/aLnAWX5FvRweqk0kUEdw= Received: by 10.220.193.137 with SMTP id du9mr286711vcb.39.1313580220161; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: 9front@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.24.163 with SMTP id v3ls1281025vdf.3.gmail; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.95.50 with SMTP id dh18mr1026020vdb.25.1313580219445; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.95.50 with SMTP id dh18mr1026019vdb.25.1313580219437; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh5si2767399vdc.3.2011.08.17.04.23.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 04:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eekee57@fastmail.fm designates 66.111.4.26 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.111.4.26; Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DE020D72 for <9front@googlegroups.com>; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:23:38 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: cjFGFN9+CR7LIVtfDdFWJK7Z4PkSrlUSFmaZM7cV67/A 1313580217 Received: from kolari.ethans.dre.am (cpc5-lanc4-0-0-cust349.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com [81.102.241.94]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 902CA45FF18 for <9front@googlegroups.com>; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:23:33 +0100 From: Ethan Grammatikidis To: 9front@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Another hardware problem Message-ID: <20110817122333.5f983fc8@kolari.ethans.dre.am> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.18.9; i486-slackware-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: eekee57@fastmail.fm X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eekee57@fastmail.fm designates 66.111.4.26 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eekee57@fastmail.fm; dkim=pass header.i=@messagingengine.com Reply-To: 9front@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list 9front@googlegroups.com; contact 9front+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: <9front.googlegroups.com> X-Google-Group-Id: 831096995978 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: 9front@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:46:36 +0400 suharik wrote: > > Clearly we are too newbie-friendly. > Clearly, this is not linux community. This is a lot of kind mans, > which are always to help fix or to write driver self. > Meanwhile, in gentoo conference a admin bans for saying, that OSS4 > software have somthing looks like XML, in other one they hate you for > saying, that X11 is the hack of the times of ZX Spectrum, C++, > portage, paludis. 12309, huge'n'bloated software, needless > dependencies, agrh~. > Anyway, thank you for the welcome. This is important for me. Funny how something which came out of #cat-v can be one of the less hate-filled places on the net. :D