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, funky text entry Message-ID: <20120707164634.457473bf@vardo.ethans.dre.am> In-Reply-To: References: <20120707023158.4bf961ec@vardo.ethans.dre.am> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.18.9; i486-slackware-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: eekee57@fastmail.fm X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eekee57@fastmail.fm designates 66.111.4.25 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eekee57@fastmail.fm; dkim=pass header.i=@fastmail.fm Reply-To: 9front@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list 9front@googlegroups.com; contact 9front+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: <9front.googlegroups.com> X-Google-Group-Id: 831096995978 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: 9front@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 15:39:41 +0200 cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote: > yeah, mothra doesnt use libframe. it has its own ui toolkit > library called libpanel written by tom duff. thats just how > it is. should be possible to emulate acme or sam text entry > more closely. it already got chording and snarf support. > > i dont heavily use mothra for text entry, so i dont notice > mutch. any takers for this are welcome. for anyone looking at it, what's most annoying is the absence of mouse control or any mouse positioning at all in single-line fields, including the main url. also just noticed another thing for the list: it's strange to only see one option at a time in an option menu, and I imagine scrolling would get impossibly fiddly if there were more than 5 or 6 options. see the session time option here for example: https://www.fastmail.fm/ -- This is obviously some strange usage of the word "simple" that I was previously unaware of.