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, funky text entry Message-ID: <20120708063400.6668fdbf@vardo.ethans.dre.am> In-Reply-To: References: <20120708003109.497a158a@vardo.ethans.dre.am> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.18.9; i486-slackware-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: eekee57@fastmail.fm X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eekee57@fastmail.fm designates 66.111.4.25 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eekee57@fastmail.fm; dkim=pass header.i=@fastmail.fm Reply-To: 9front@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list 9front@googlegroups.com; contact 9front+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: <9front.googlegroups.com> X-Google-Group-Id: 831096995978 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: 9front@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 02:07:40 +0200 cinap_lenrek@gmx.de wrote: > mothra will never reach that level. mothra doesnt know about the > boxes. it sees a html page as a list of rectangles that can have > text or images or panels in it. it has no box model, no idea of > the nesting hirarchy of stuff, no dom. > > the little things that got added to mothra where simple and well > within its capabilities. > > tables, divs, css, js... all that will never work with the data > structures mothra uses. Ah. Speaking purely hypothetically, if you've got a list of boxes what's to prevent putting them side by side sometimes? Or even within a grid, but then the grid would have to be coded, I guess. > > so shouldnt we spend our time writing a real webbrowser that can > potentially do all these web things? i dont want to. i want to > spend *less* time trying to emulate the braindamaged stuff coming > from traditional operating systems and concentrate more on what > we can do with plan9. > > mothra is still good for lots of things. even with its flaws and > somtimes it is usefull especially because it does *not* implement > some major web feature :) Yeah. Just the other day I was thinking of stripping font color support from Abaco. :) -- This is obviously some strange usage of the word "simple" that I was previously unaware of.