From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from owm.eumx.net ([91.82.101.43]) by pp; Sun Nov 30 21:34:22 EST 2014 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 02:34:16 +0000 Message-ID: <20141201023416.Horde.FQUzeibL0LRJacOfEsSlkw1@ssl.eumx.net> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: software-based extension singleton From: Kurt H Maier To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] Debian port of Plan 9 In-Reply-To: <547BCB9A.8090301@ix.netcom.com> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.2.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Quoting Marty : > Hi list, > > I'm still new to Plan 9. My current desktop is Debian, so I am looking > for way to combine both interests. > > How feasible would it be to do a Debian port of Plan 9, like the Debian > GNU/Hurd experimental port, and how suitable would 9front be as a > starting point? > > If this happens, I see 9front as an upstream source for Debian, not a > competing project. I'm looking at 9front because it looks like the most > active Plan 9 project at the moment. > > A Debian port would entail: > > - multiple architecture support > - porting the packaging system (dpkg/apt) > - porting all the apps > - adding the missing drivers > - following Debian policy and release schedule > - finding Debian developers who will sponsor and sustain the port > > I don't know anything about getting approval for such a project, but > if it happens I think there will be a lot of interest. Debian seems like > a natural fit because it is the only distro (that I know of) that > supports alternate OSs and kernels, and Plan 9 would be the first to > do both. The port could also be done unofficially, but it would have > less visibility and support. > > There are many porting issues. A large number of Debian apps use dbus, > so that might be a biggest obstacle to porting (this is a general > problem in Debian ports). Could 9p be used instead as a dbus > replacement? I don't know much about either protocol, but 9p seems like > a more professionally engineered solution. > > Unix APIs, POSIX and FHS are also porting issues to contend with, but I > am hoping the Plan 9 for User Space will alleviate some of those. For > graphics apps, could ports be done from one of the frame buffer > ports, like the Debian ARM port? I have more questions, but I'll stop > there. Thanks, > > Marty get out