From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from wopr.sciops.net ([216.126.196.60]) by ur; Tue Aug 9 11:33:10 EDT 2016 Received: (qmail 40367 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Aug 2016 15:33:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 08:33:07 -0700 From: Kurt H Maier To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] inquery: plans for phasing out cpu, rx and import Message-ID: <20160809153307.GA39931@wopr> Mail-Followup-To: 9front@9front.org References: <735bd46159bae3ce5da21ce3c13b9321@felloff.net> <335d7a70-6e7f-429b-8248-d2997ee7743c@email.android.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <335d7a70-6e7f-429b-8248-d2997ee7743c@email.android.com> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: service injection-aware HTML content-driven general-purpose locator On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 11:09:41AM -0400, stanley lieber wrote: > > So we keep things like ftp and nfs clients in the base system but remove the ability to talk to Plan 9? > I didn't see this as removing support for a protocol so much as removing an older version of the protocol -- like not shipping support for nfsv1 or whatever. I have reconsidered and I agree, we should keep them. > Disabling the listeners on 9front is obvious, and since Plan 9 is dead, maintenance is not really needed, but why remove it, exactly? Just to feel "clean"? Originally I supported removing them because they were completely superseded by rcpu et al; if what we have is sufficient, it would simplify code maintenance and documentation, presumably, to remove the cruft. > We still keep a lot of other dirty stuff, specifically so we can talk to other outmoded servers that are not even Plan 9. Maybe Plan 9 systems are so rare it doesn't matter, but this policy seems quite randomly applied. This is what made me reconsider -- as long as sources is up, I don't like the idea of losing access to labs contrib. Obviously we could make it available with our tools... ... on the other hand, when was the last time any of us saw a labs plan 9 installation that wasn't some transient nerd totem, like a raspberry pi or something? Anyone on this list touch labs plan 9 on the regular? khm