From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from forward106o.mail.yandex.net ([37.140.190.187]) by ewsd; Tue Jul 21 09:00:01 EDT 2020 Received: from forward102q.mail.yandex.net (forward102q.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0e:1ba:0:640:516:4e7d]) by forward106o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 0B7675062268; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:59:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mxback6q.mail.yandex.net (mxback6q.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c0e:42:0:640:9de5:975f]) by forward102q.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 077A47F20002; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:59:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: from vla3-3dd1bd6927b2.qloud-c.yandex.net (vla3-3dd1bd6927b2.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c15:350f:0:640:3dd1:bd69]) by mxback6q.mail.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id DvaNzcGx7x-xkGGXJHx; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:59:47 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1595336387; bh=+liqchQIHnJOc2Ef7ztnoL/gRSZmliwJAbIAs8ESDE8=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:Message-ID; b=yCWFT+dpUw7620grooz9QJXFpw2fcGNZdNijgVwYTNYidr99R5Jd0sJhggkDgnJcd gLWsN9x8CaOWW5kCqMnPdCZ8OP0kyemvOz5ts9kDHB3W3lPEVahENutWPnsgg4BLQ8 S50pkkTe7yXY8dRc6I5n1R98NkmNdWBGk0LXvkDQ= Authentication-Results: mxback6q.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Received: by vla3-3dd1bd6927b2.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id AmbXv8L40N-xjkusV1l; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:59:45 +0300 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client certificate not present) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 14:59:45 +0200 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: ori@eigenstate.org, 9front@9front.org Subject: Fwd: Re: [9front] patch smtp: ignore unrecognized certificates Message-ID: <20200721125945.6-Rq2%sdaoden@yandex.com> Mail-Followup-To: ori@eigenstate.org, 9front@9front.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.19-87-gef7dc32e OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: compliant proxy DOM framework Hey. Well, and Yandex did not allow this due to s-nail: SMTP: unexpected status from server: 554 5.7.1 [2] Message rejected under suspicion of SPAM; https://ya.cc/1IrBc 1595335888-OnBurogmkK-pRiau6wO Which never happened before. --- Forwarded from Steffen Nurpmeso --- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 14:51:27 +0200 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: ori@eigenstate.org Cc: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] patch smtp: ignore unrecognized certificates Message-ID: <20200721125127.QS3ta%sdaoden@yandex.com> Mail-Followup-To: ori@eigenstate.org, 9front@9front.org OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt Hello. Sorry for the late replies, i was already on my way out yesterday, after lots of trouble with my GMail account. (Actually it is still not working, somehow it is i who get stuttering before heartbeat, forward account names in address lines of normally sent out mails, thus revealing them, and now stuff like s-nail: TLS connection using TLSv1.3 / TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 s-nail: >>> SERVER: 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP q24sm17507947edg.51 - gsmtp s-nail: *smtp-config*: using ehlo extension s-nail: >>> EHLO gmail.com s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-smtp.gmail.com at your service, [217.144.132.164] s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-SIZE 35882577 s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-8BITMIME s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XOAUTH2 PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN OAUTHBEARER XOAUTH s-nail: SMTP: authentication: skipping PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN s-nail: SMTP: authentication: skipping XOAUTH s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-PIPELINING s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-CHUNKING s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250 SMTPUTF8 s-nail: *smtp-config*: using pipelining extension s-nail: *smtp-config*: using auth extension s-nail: SMTP: authentication: selecting PLAIN s-nail: >>> AUTH PLAIN .......... s-nail: >>> MAIL FROM: s-nail: >>> RCPT TO: s-nail: >>> DATA s-nail: >>> SERVER: 534-5.7.14 >> AUTH PLAIN .......... s-nail: >>> SERVER: 534-5.7.14 >> SERVER: 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP x4sm15187242eju.2 - gsmtp s-nail: *smtp-config*: using ehlo extension s-nail: >>> EHLO gmail.com s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-smtp.gmail.com at your service, [217.144.132.164] s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-SIZE 35882577 s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-8BITMIME s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XOAUTH2 PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN OAUTHBEARER XOAUTH s-nail: SMTP: authentication: skipping PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN s-nail: SMTP: authentication: skipping XOAUTH s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-PIPELINING s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250-CHUNKING s-nail: >>> SERVER: 250 SMTPUTF8 s-nail: *smtp-config*: using pipelining extension s-nail: *smtp-config*: using auth extension s-nail: SMTP: authentication: selecting PLAIN s-nail: >>> AUTH PLAIN .......... s-nail: >>> MAIL FROM: s-nail: >>> RCPT TO: s-nail: >>> DATA s-nail: >>> SERVER: 451 4.5.0 SMTP protocol violation, see RFC 2821 x4sm15187242eju.2 - gsmtp s-nail: SMTP: unexpected status from server: 451 4.5.0 SMTP protocol violation, see RFC 2821 x4sm15187242eju.2 - gsmtp s-nail: ... message not sent I mean, that really sucks, you know. It seems they are in the process of forbidding any non-OAUTH2 based authentication, but still advertising PLAIN, as can be seen. I hate it. But even more i hate it that i have found out that the socks-proxy support of my MUA did not actually support TLS encrypted channels. ;-() ori@eigenstate.org wrote in <8ACD8978E36CCF9C48952CB2FEE6557C@eigenstate.org>: |> P.S.: several times i tried to contact Stanley Lieber in the past, |> but never got a response. If this mail gets through (quite some |> did not in the past), would you mind changing my address to |> steffen@@sdaoden.eu, please? Thank you!! | |Also -- you should be able to just resubscribe, no? Interesting idea. I will try soon. I surely did that in the past though, i am subscribed for at least 5, 6, 7 years and sent out my "if this mail does not get through i will try no more, Stanley" mail at least 3 or 4 years back. :) --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt) -- End forward <20200721125127.QS3ta%sdaoden@yandex.com> --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)