From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28753 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2021 18:53:38 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Aug 2021 18:53:38 -0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by 1ess; Sun Aug 15 09:48:35 -0400 2021 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1629035310; bh=a8ofIKNgFxE625Cbj726Ls6tNBVgITKxP4W15ewE7QE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=KDH61R3Avr6h24Ec1l4YSbWgzGLToWCODW7TNz/kCX9UTpWN0Zmidd/BsaHMz58B5 HTiL8uko5n7KkY97PaKMdBxa9vTPFIR4QNkF6ISID4yGtc1xei4k/WKwyvF4sbE/0S jLfUnFqxYOaV071aU4SyrGRpPGn6gJIcxA/n70w8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from localhost ([178.19.228.52]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MZTqW-1md0F22hvC-00WXzb for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:35:54 +0200 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:36:14 +0200 From: Eckard Brauer To: 9front@9front.org Message-ID: <20210815153614.2b5f36a5@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <07D14AC304343E50CEA0DD2F5C472421@smtp.pobox.com> References: <20210814122014.621634c6@gmx.de> <07D14AC304343E50CEA0DD2F5C472421@smtp.pobox.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:yxQn+EUuymm5ojV/GM0lycC6P629DrEpEButDZvymQHseeSSo8+ jYR2JNoUMmAUdybtJHtVuFb2AXPJDzfl5X0+FAsMZiLqw9WVhAZPh6EnGOwypNvh+hqaAs8 Dq1Bb0FvDnbgEoELN5Rko5qKo3m+3Wm4ITAT+cnrYiuV4XqzTAyF84ZAUiYryHQDCmMnU4u ibGFpZy8l328pJ3rF5m4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8lg60qOGH58=:+6vJszT7I9UEpQ2hA2UmAG MAwmYmlN9ni0RCkwrJgmpbgVhGJ1oNWPBVZ4/7p2M+cd2ynTapDoIBFUECukSI6z+0l3q08Ia wz29BbQr5mh6tdAjYqhVJgPMtb/iAS1eoMVwnXHtE/FvNWpAb3CuJL3ba+h1+vjEsESmCAz1I BKnbJtD2T/se4bD4R6sFTZGcqBknsETRwk0qi0f0ed5r3I+6jlXOjKgvFA97Clk1F0ndVGLNl UhLc+cNCeswklVtQc6SvHLYc+Rw7XFq37Muf8XDXQ+iNXAdqCTxq1p8GbJoywjLTtDF9eYeEk TKi5+rWWs4CjYjc2eFjQ3uaUELVpk4a7Kpx4Y9BU8LiXMrCkAdesivbY7pi51wCYifDlDj4vU o+uHikkFYaCZmgzButmJ5pmyFlUC5XIV7qtvQzgFTZmClb/69uTPeKNOIIvJoLhdx9zrUSJOH LMCxLcTUka4xR8fJ+5frGLBrksG0fG19M8WVyL+wxtW8GznfByO2MvfuOeO6Puv4FEhkEmwmK bYKd185RQbGE57PpbeWYSdJykoSbHHUX7pMzwJU287epUuBB6DwTw3tD1a05ZivhWD1aKyOAG MKudujmaa33+ON/DKg5qP8aBi3JyguVZ8kxnFDLiRfiz4Qz3qCaJvOz8yGcCqWrlAQ+pPvOSj WVOktTTSRhJtz2twsiqLAfZpeHYt7qgLBsyjAu5xdmwfPsvLAoSD1NlcrXrrBa6VR66TQtLVN epkvEISO0s6JgEKRE+Po8qqomBTNhU7Ku3quUHhVt1c1QCgkcOAV86XyImLn4GM2hdDrdWRQD /Z133BTD0fmQnj/BNQKcCPNRQ9TxRB0lo5Y8Li96muqr/vskHYFw4rQXMPovsDvm1KhNMnN0K 6X1a6sRFP8WX9YkNXhfwZyUUpcp5r5UZfd38Xxi71Z4+gWc4psyfnsPOjagUG6+GGHAQCibhk XvW1YeKnPUGA/5gPU+YAzs9U07YjXMiVLIL+/iUbv0hJVRpnfg90o08HcAv28k2vUoLflnOq+ iijY8KkqxJAioI2mxPwobqyvn5Fwj7DHM7CsSP70LKF2hJvBkusxw/cDt9YjOKco2F+HjKNGQ LH5syy5D+csCGJLDWIm15ggx/dj1lmf7KoK5aFw7Cl9uilgcAUL6+6XGg== List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: overflow-preventing component engine Subject: Re: [9front] PATCH: click-to-focus in fgui Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Am Sat, 14 Aug 2021 14:46:52 -0700 schrieb unobe@cpan.org: > Quoth Eckard Brauer : > > So far you're free to treat that as whatever you want. As you seem > > to hate the discussion and maybe the participants of it, it's > > probably of much more value if you sit down and write a Plan9 bible > > with all se do's and dont's well ordered by precedence. That way > > you could have a better chance to avoid such discussions for the > > future and simply remind people to "read the fucking guide of > > dogmas". > > I don't think this sarcasm was appreciated by hiro--and I think > actually shut down conversation. If this paragraph was removed, I > think the e-mail would have been better received. > I think you're correct, just after thinking about my mail. It's indeed _not_ that i wanted to offend hiro, as i of cource noticed that he's one of the most active and productive members here. Only felt pissed by that he seemed to be angry with the whole topic and took my likely unqualified arguments (#ifdefs, patching rio's behavious) without presenting only a single counterargument. Probably it would have been better to not have written that. So far sorry for that, but still curious for the counterarguments (and there, especially hiro's too, of course!), will need those for really understanding what's correct and what not. Up to now that's not or rarely documented. Eckard =2D-