From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26233 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2021 23:19:34 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Aug 2021 23:19:34 -0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]) by 1ess; Sun Aug 15 16:42:34 -0400 2021 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1629060146; bh=4FFLCqXlk+Pt+fiLTMMdoo0wRmjl8NQ7Jo1cot87jAw=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=SuFNMX7r1s2lXZBAT2HqH5GB4195bsUS4GqMRgDR8tzp3kIYFzPQ9Nxvio0wEnXnm HUDAvPF5wlI/ucdwrL1YmJdC7k4FlgfUZd+GpoFINck1GESSeUB0833tU0q5iKUvjs PyyaGnuMkOHN0pRj+QwxIBfmYA+rCqAqu47NwSqA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from localhost ([178.19.228.52]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MWih0-1mZ3Co2128-00X5J2 for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 22:18:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 22:18:49 +0200 From: Eckard Brauer To: 9front@9front.org Message-ID: <20210815221849.0f1023e3@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <6D38DF3F-8577-4838-A63F-97A0EB388FF2@stanleylieber.com> References: <6D38DF3F-8577-4838-A63F-97A0EB388FF2@stanleylieber.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lhv7iRixqwJyUxo+pjeqPgh8jV9Qdlwp/DNISPKqj0PLCeFXXMo wZwELKPh63WhlpQtUNwFyyRRVmmaIJ0Qpj5p/ectt2640saWzF/hcyBu+VgJvVsF8bU89uR acDrnv0PnkelwGZHIo3Fm1EEffbsKMe8HxuBIgTi6vgWnEbshaoltEN+U1sRodDR60qomlO WU+R51brLCKnDm7wak4yA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JYMtJJAZg64=:NoHqmeb3PuE9RCc+/r+cHU hipa+mE+TEPqPXSSX/cJiE0juypjoIM8Mc8BIrQ3a0F85MTksICMakPn8JK22PV9xwdNNQt80 dSwgx7GFd6YG3QfjhVHb1Xeb6Dy1VjZvuiaArhBwMqOd+yU2Xx5F3OwRl97Aot+Yi570YsNgQ OPg2lxGySt1erE6g+d4CbckIXOOxdNeq0Nf2h0iwiyMvmNVrzEgzW+7r8sbai6TXAW8TEIboi todZb8Z6dzU0I87Remev9LxNrqGrucej0XsEMaaD9u9fX9/sAuJFFKqzahtm8BVBlHNQz/Rm1 yGnR8z0lREkksoqFSBvBVbOX8YuOPIGQK+ddhA4FBsF3MZ2OKqZHL1Swhq4Z+56QnbNH8dbS7 erFtBURYsjkX6TQ4oaocTSyg1uGYmGHSfjdrKlWYdMdb4Zgxyy4xd9ulbnciYXPRCSDZw596N MxvvWfKZGfbKRN/ct/7zSHdKQtaFEtOriCOAvYIL1yxyfXqTAUXWV7Eg5pNTPDzTqTrsrH2Bw 4WQ2OVj51mw93tZafHqUmRw25S9DGzBU3cTcaVthb1eVf/FigFpKncJLFlycNPcAKXRYxS8VP gUCLrDTOvnfyCasRIexGErjZmAAi6MCT1/75bUDMCm/o7lQbCVvhVpIEnejnOwEzxHu10Pcjw vfsD3JimcjtkC8UuCHevo/KaUEymf43gTghbPttitpSEmHDEHHX/uZf+D4vav+ERCGLsfQNgS sI5VoPyVVv5shrewEYLZ14b30fyNaqbXFUXJDPnw7rWKPSEhB8I2EUJemJnxWBm4zIGUTj2Bj z0iYva79IUaYsM4NkiaeYO5Oz2+2iQP0oIVgwwvnY/ds8wvFg647zqzfqnWQU0acqsygEie+G LtaB/uXozMIOXZVlNJ+gvZFTcSjv+4VwqrRfZV8t9S+hqwsZBe4sgLlSy3HmzD0jPv9gWvBUd HhFw1sX0YrKDXJgAxj3a6E7SMW4W5bQxLjPXq+zkwtGuAF7DmKSaGLbTbRpHG8Sl/yONANVKB wF78ZGbqSX6ieTcCmgb2yVR7z869R5omvvI8UTYGWyzHNIFXWZ74nl6NpZV/EkOG45DwO32+m e61t7TyFFvz3pveipMzhcnn5MI/JTy2ZG6PGpMvZmdHH3MHldXSghnKSA== List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: stateless advanced SQL over XML metadata-scale property cache Subject: Re: [9front] PATCH: click-to-focus in fgui Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > to be fair, it also makes the same people angry. To maybe end that unlucky story, if "it" in your sentence references to the last paragraph, it made me angry in a sense of "why the fuck didn't I know of that?", simply frustration of having no idea what good and probably well accepted reasons lead to such consensus. Even if i didn't agree with hiro at a given point, I (mostly) enjoy reading his statements (and those of many or all the ppl. here). Sure I know well of the documentation dilemma(s) from experience in a few companies i worked for. And continuously trying to learn enough of P9 to better understand and getting to some productivity at all, treat it as a stupid over-reaction... a friend told me at a time that "occasionally your (my) blasting fuse is short". That's been more than enough on the topic from me. Eckard