From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C3C26278 for ; Mon, 6 May 2024 18:23:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gaff.inri.net ([168.235.71.243]) by 9front; Mon May 6 12:21:45 -0400 2024 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([168.235.81.125]) by gaff; Mon May 6 12:21:45 -0400 2024 Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 12:21:42 -0400 From: Stanley Lieber To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: <33bdda90-6291-4405-9e7e-818062c53110@sirjofri.de> References: <944CC9D807FB7E302CDDB114CBE15BD0@wopr.sciops.net> <73EDEC59-DF58-4D74-A2C8-B2090C47F579@stanleylieber.com> <33bdda90-6291-4405-9e7e-818062c53110@sirjofri.de> Message-ID: <230238EB-7CE3-41CE-B50E-8140DA74D45B@stanleylieber.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: DOM template polling map/reduce backend Subject: [9front] =?US-ASCII?Q?Re=3A_=5B9front=5D_cwfs_no-worm_+_venti_=28was=3A_AUTH?= =?US-ASCII?Q?ENTICATE_failed_can=27t_get_challenge_=28imap4d=29=29?= Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk On May 6, 2024 12:08:03 PM EDT, sirjofri = wrote: >Hello, > >did anyone ever try to run a cwfs without worm and a venti? > >Here's my thought: > >- Public accessible VPS with just cwfs, no worm >- local/on-site, non-public-accessible, not-always-available venti server= for backups/dumps > >Those dumps could happen manually=2E The benefit would be that a small lo= cal server is cheap and doesn't have to run all the time, so that would be = one of the cheapest worms possible=2E You'd get the benefit of that worm, p= lus the convenience of a non-worm partition on the server=2E > >It could also be extended by running the cwfs+worm combination on the loc= al server, and the publicly accessible VPS would only need a cfs=2E > >That's only theory=2E I never actually used venti in any way, and my foss= il days are a long time ago=2E Let me know what you think=2E > >sirjofri > i'd be willing to try it out=2E one problem with the advice i promised to give my younger self: the defaul= t cwfs already creates an other partition for storing un-dumped files=2E bu= t with constrained disk space (vm prices increase steeply for huge ssd stor= age), we never have enough room to make the worm large enough AND make othe= r large enough to do our business=2E it's easy to fill a "small" worm even = with just normal system churn=2E and other is useless if it's small=2E right now, 9front=2Eorg and cat-v=2Eorg live on separate servers, each one= a 60gb cwfs with no dump=2E 9front=2Eorg has plenty of room, but all the c= at-v=2Eorg stuff has a lot more files and hovers at over 50gb usage=2E if i= 'd set this up with a worm i'd already be fucked, but the way things are no= w i could conceivably just move some sites around and delete files off the = existing installation=2E fortunately, the cat-v=2Eorg stuff is relatively s= tatic, so it's not a real emergency=2E=20 sl