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([2600:1700:8170:e391:cc45:170f:672f:4ad6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d18sm497527otc.46.2020.07.23.00.55.07 for <9front@9front.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:55:08 -0700 (PDT) From: William Gunnells Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: mail crazyness Message-Id: <2319EA9E-9D14-41B8-AEAA-C079C8D40635@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:55:04 -0700 To: 9front@9front.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: anonymous non-blocking cloud just-in-time-oriented HTML over JSON lifecycle-oriented replication I have never had such a hard time getting something that should be so = simple to work It seems like I type out the same commands over and over again and = gamble at what needs to be done.=20 This a huge amount of confusion. If I boot the system into cpu/auth mode = I seem to get further. But honestly I don=E2=80=99t believe it. I know = that wherever or however I log in I am glenda Typing in the same commands over and over is simply silly. Nothing seems = to stick I actually got the mail to work only for the container to accidentally = get rebooted because of other issues and the fact I really didn=E2=80=99t understand persistence To actually check mail I have to type the following auth/factotum. By the way this is either in the profile or cpurc. Not = sure why I have to do that. Seems silly.=20 echo =E2=80=98key proto=3Dpass server=3Dimap.gmail.com service=3Dimap = user=3Dthinktankworkspaces !password=3Dwhaterver=E2=80=99>/mnt/factotum/ct= l then run=20 upas/fs -f /imaps/imap.gmail.com/thinktankworkspaces@gmail.com=20 Even after I get this far I=E2=80=99m still not to sure I did things = right. A prompt does ask me to enter the password.=20 It seems like /mnt/factotum/ctl has two entries, one with full email = including the @ symbol and one without the @ symbol. Seems kind of = redundant. Why run the echo statement in the first place.=20 But no. I=E2=80=99m not done yet=20 i need to mount this file or open this file echo open /imaps/imap.gmail.com/thinktankworkspaces mbox >/mail/fs/ctl = Still not sure if I need the @ symbol or not. But guess what I get an = error permission denied or its busy or whatever I have to run upas/fs -n Honestly not even sure about the order of this verses -f anymore. Seems = like -n doesn=E2=80=99t interfere with file or something like that = according to the man page.=20 But it seems to be the only way to mount that file or whatever.=20 And I have to do that on the same screen, same namespace, because I = can=E2=80=99t draw another screen. I already did too much work to get = this far. I can run acme and enter =E2=80=98Mail=E2=80=99 = somewhere/anywhere then click it and things seem to work. But I can only = send email from myself to myself using my gmail.com account. I can=E2=80=99= t send it to another person or another email account. I can=E2=80=99t = figure out why. It did work before the crash. Oh and I won=E2=80=99t = bore you with the details of doing this twice on two draw screens = because i wanted to test =E2=80=98faces=E2=80=99. Lot's of copy and = paste.=20 I suspect it has something to do with rewrite. I made the mistake of = deleting it. But since the original file had very little anyways. I = didn=E2=80=99t think it was a big deal to delete it and 'cp = rewrite.gateway rewrite'.=20 Then change the domain to \1@gmail.com. But while it worked before. It = no longer works now. I can=E2=80=99t send mail.=20 I thought perhaps because I deleted and re-created it, if you look = closely its owned by Glenda=20 =E2=80=94=E2=80=94rw-rw-r-- M 24 glenda upas 1154 Jul 23 06:40 rewrite Plan9 does not have chown, and chgrp does not work something about = stats.=20 while I have the correct imap in /mnt/factotum/ctl I also made sure I = had the correct smtp in /mnt/factotum/ctl Still now sure what /mail/lib/remotemail is supposed to do. I have run = it before to see what it does. It does make a connection without errors. = Perhaps this is a wrapper for for upas. Seems logical I have the correct sender, address and gmail statements as listed in the = documentation.=20 i believe I have the x509 files created for both /sys/lib/tls/mail and = /sys/lib/tls/smtp Why honestly is this so difficult. I believe this to be a huge problem. = There is no step by step instructions that say.=20 Wait!!!! Don=E2=80=99t change screens, because you will be in a = different namespace. Oh wait please remember this doesn=E2=80=99t = persists. Oh wait you kind of want things in a profile. Why are they not = in the profile in the first place. They can be in there and commented = out. And HONESTLY. How do I know this profile is really working.=20 The profile already had the following to begin with.=20 webfs plumber upas/fs -n rio -i riostart I still have to type this when I drawterm from another OS. So I don=E2=80=99= t see the point.=20 If I boot to CPU/Auth and want yo run rio from the terminal its an even = greater nightmare. But no big deal=20 I did figure it out I need to have=20 mouseport=3Dps2 vgasize=3D1024x768x16 aux/mouse $mouseport fork; aux/realemu; aux/vga -m visa -l $vgasize # wow really who came up = with that #####and I need bind -a =E2=80=98#i=E2=80=99 /dev ####then=20 exec rio -i riostart Now I have a GUI that comes up after reboot as cpu/auth I swear auth/keyfs and auth/factotum were mounted or started in that = cpurc file For the love of God why do I have to type it in again. Why when I drawterm from another OS it doesn=E2=80=99t seem to really = make a difference and I have to type auth/keyfs or auth/factotum or = whatever.=20 I do check log files. Sometimes they are helpful. Like incorrect this or = incorrect that but then sometimes it reads a tls message has been sent = at such and such time. But no mail was actually sent. OMG Lastly I=E2=80=99m super confused on persisting. It seems wasteful to = run the commands in some mounted area and re-echo the same commands = again. There should be a way to pull in or merge from existing = /factotucm/ctl Clarity would be nice Damn. I hate asking for Pink Ponies.=20