From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mimir.eigenstate.org ([206.124.132.107]) by ewsd; Mon Sep 21 00:49:09 EDT 2020 Received: from abbatoir.fios-router.home (pool-74-101-2-6.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [74.101.2.6]) by mimir.eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 7bd032e8 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256:NO); Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <244F88C3BD79577CE92C0A3495FBC369@eigenstate.org> To: sl@stanleylieber.com, 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] /mail/lib: cleanup proposal Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 21:48:59 -0700 From: ori@eigenstate.org In-Reply-To: <5B3C3AFC-BBCB-45E2-95C8-D0C40C5C3400@stanleylieber.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: ISO-certified API hardware > > I think this would make it easier to figure out what's going > > on with upas configuration, and get a working system. > > > > Thoughts? Complaints? "Don't touch the artwork!"? > > please keep in mind all our shit (read: this mailing list, and my > personal mail) runs on upas before committing breaking changes. Yep, definitely. That's why I'm trying to validate my assumptions on what's actually considered configuration, and what's dumped in there. Note, /mail/lib isn't in hg, so sysupdate doesn't touch it. The changes I'm proposing would be in the defaults for new installs. Any breakage would be from changes in /sys/src/cmd/upas, and I don't see any problem with keeping things compatible. At most it'd mean checking an extra path to decide what command to run. > strongly in favor of simplifying setup. whatever we're currently > shipping is the remnants of what actually ran at the labs. all that > configuration (anti-spam, etc.) was theirs. i got all my own stuff > working by reading the man pages and trial and error. Yeah. I'm doing that now as well for testing the smtpd changes for date and time. I'm realizing that this stuff is simpler than it looks, but the example config really overcomplicates things. > i thought incoming messages were piped through qmail somewhere along > the line. Ah, I missed it in the rewrite file. Thanks for the cross check.