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Subject: Re: [9front] DNS/ICMP via sshnet(4) or drawterm
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Quoth ori@eigenstate.org:
> > My other major use case is ping.  I see that there is such a thing as
> > ping-over-tcp.  I suppose one of the use cases for providing
> > ping-over-tcp is seeing if packet-shaping is having an impact on a
> > connection.  That would suggest to me that ip/ping would be modified,
> > or just a separate utility.
> > 
> 
> I don't think ICMP forwarding is worth the effort;
> it's ok to just not have it.

Right, I wasn't thinking of ICMP forwarding proper, but from what I
read online it's sending an ACK or SYN packet and measure the respones
time.  Maybe there's something that already does that, or it's trivial
to do.

Anyway, thanks again for the reply re: DNS-overTCP.