From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13294 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2021 01:47:13 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Aug 2021 01:47:13 -0000 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com ([64.147.108.71]) by 1ess; Sat Aug 14 17:59:22 -0400 2021 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDF5EDF80 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:43:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :to:subject:date:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=TG9OUwmKGVXZ89eNli+fpBBLS ba8+Uo9xM9pEd6wK8g=; b=psc96HdOtnN/bifNt+CV5UrJsM/Ng6yo0X89hXWuz 263X5XgyjE1jCNIh26ubx7U5xqZMY5L8onmViHgkz4azpOK5QJ3H5lobZMWCfpr9 oLuxaOTgj9kz5VGlvdrGFNZOQUVcLg1lJE2XoWKXtvQCd5SshtwJMip3iBrL2bmZ hQ= Received: from pb-smtp2.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C8EEDF7F for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:43:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Received: from strider (unknown [47.34.135.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8234EEDF7E for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:43:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Message-ID: <35D30064F0C69F74F6CF5AF1C2CAC860@smtp.pobox.com> To: 9front@9front.org Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 14:43:12 -0700 From: unobe@cpan.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: A10D5EEC-FD48-11EB-BCA1-FD8818BA3BAF-09620299!pb-smtp2.pobox.com List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: flexible immutable just-in-time DOM-oriented controller Subject: Re: [9front] PATCH: click-to-focus in fgui Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoth hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>: > > So far you're free to treat that as whatever you want. As you seem to > > hate the discussion and maybe the participants of it > > thanks for making it easy for me so I know i can stop reading already > after the second sentence. > both statements are untrue. I'm not understanding your line of reasoning, hiro: his first statement is untrue? You (hiro) are not free to treat that (i.e., his previous e-mail's content) as whatever you want (e.g., some sort of trolling)? For the second sentence, you only quoted the premise: Eckard said you "seem"--it's his perspective. If his perspective is not true, that's not the same as his statement re: his perspective not being true.[1] You can just say that his perspective (i.e, "hiro hate[s] the discussion and maybe the participants of it") isn't true, or just ignore the first paragraph entirely. If the premise is untrue, then his conclusion ("it's probably of much more value if you sit down and write a Plan9 bible with all se do's and dont's well ordered by precedence") does not necessarily follow. After the first paragraph, the rest of his e-mail is mainly focused on the issue. He is open to discussion. He ends his e-mail with: "Up to now, I didn't find a strong counterargument against a different focus policy, but am still open to know that." [1] The difference between "She seems to be angry" and she actually being angry.