From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10839 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2020 19:23:19 -0000 Received: from ewsd.inri.net (107.191.116.128) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Nov 2020 19:23:19 -0000 Received: from wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.24]) by ewsd; Mon Nov 30 14:11:06 -0500 2020 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A5CD52 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 14:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap35 ([10.202.2.85]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 30 Nov 2020 14:02:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=fm1; bh=IxSbzqa17O6w9i/oCncNTAfeZhAsniv /o0K1rUrRmGo=; b=Tnwj/IFPCyscv2xvAwpLiaFsH0yRdEYQE3rkkBkbKVToRpl NRub3lDctupQZ4bHz/30gXBY2sXugMyZxeU4o7385CmvtSkz1wWuwYCRjo9mo5JA FidI1L5qrr7A8s0LkPDsEEE9pWESVsKZPIbrgH2vZz0Ez1mZ7GKwo7BqYZT7hL17 nTY6K3z2aAi3g1zIn0zmr4OVKkH9f5v4McXyuE+82EMkRK8P+4aw+ZAQsL9ecJjD h5rW9lNLC/hMpWKyDQr/5FN+306ekarBw9pR1ClHd8x02qksUjoNcmJ6QQ1PXdaT Ig8At+E/GbVfwVv5DS4RDesfwepb41RA8KVBRRw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=IxSbzq a17O6w9i/oCncNTAfeZhAsniv/o0K1rUrRmGo=; b=ZSfLR61iiDqrWBBgl2w+gD fSvG8k5x9QpI93lxORVQ4EhzqVSER32UqiMz86s0jmyeYRcs/+XXL294oKe8XEr3 8LhHDqaBtLEnRgCMMm8b4aLLjVS1Oz+2l1IlotYr42HjsnADHLsbgNPE2yuuRvdM HUyg9besU5CV+pWIpR2P15ux7oEM45cDJjmX76g9+UE9fl09s1xFl4e3yoGYAlOu gUu5F3QBzIQTnfvJLnJm8k/Yee03ptX0LMU86asGRrtnrmTbus/qAoCJSsfcqRfW wngsRnrcwSSIm0YUkFCOB+Q7djAm8fG3Tpq0nPKvvOiMdV4nWsNGb4F01UJq/X1w == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrudeitddguddulecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesth dtredtreertdenucfhrhhomhepfdfgthhhrghnucfirghruggvnhgvrhdfuceovggvkhgv vgehjeesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhfmheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffdvtdehgeekfe efgfeufeejudetvdfggfffkefgjefhteekgeevjedvfeeuueeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfu ihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepvggvkhgvvgehjeesfhgrshhtmh grihhlrdhfmh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 204CF14C0180; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 14:02:14 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-622-g4a97c0b-fm-20201115.001-g4a97c0b3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <47bcda2a-cf15-495d-8b88-9c054779f114@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5F50EEE8-02BE-4C89-8C9F-84154F2C2F6B@stanleylieber.com> References: <7b639e82-1c04-4651-884c-bb52377aea0d@www.fastmail.com> <5F50EEE8-02BE-4C89-8C9F-84154F2C2F6B@stanleylieber.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 19:01:54 +0000 From: "Ethan Gardener" To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: non-blocking managed configuration-oriented scripting solution Subject: Re: [9front] /dev/draw performance Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Stanley Lieber wrote: > On November 30, 2020 1:40:32 PM EST, Ethan Gardener wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, at 8:03 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > >> > >> I am not saying rio cannot be improved, but characterising it as > >> inferior work by inferior people is (i feel) unfair and incorrect. > > > >I realise my statements could be read that way. I intended to mean people with different goals, but regardless, I'm sorry to those involved. > > > >Anthony is also correct. It's a bad habit I got into a long time ago and can't seem to quit, especially where Plan 9 is involved. I entirely missed learning about Brazil when Stanley Lieber and others were no doubt researching it. > > to be fair, public information about unreleased projects at the labs is > both sparse and confusing. Thanks.