From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.20]) by ewsd; Thu Mar 15 00:57:57 EDT 2018 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (c-73-211-181-224.hsd1.il.comcast.net [73.211.181.224]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPSA id w2F4tbgM019271 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128 bits) verified NO) for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 04:55:41 GMT Subject: Re: [9front] Argument lists in Plan 9 man pages To: 9front@9front.org References: <8ADDB08FEC580BCDA1A069F2B6469597@5ess.inri.net> <20180315033451.GA89773@wopr> From: Kyle Nusbaum Message-ID: <4ed50240-6447-c3db-a0a8-43429ac35e91@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:54:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180315033451.GA89773@wopr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: just-in-time full-stack map/reduce solution On 03/14/2018 10:34 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:57:55PM -0400, sl@stanleylieber.com wrote: >> >> I agree with Tufte, at least so far as this applies to man pages. >> Flag options should be presented as a table. > > > Counterpoint: > > Man pages should provide a full and well-articulated explanation of the > software. Tufte's table advocacy is more appropriate for a 'usage' > function that might describe invocation to a user who passed a help > flag or fucked up the initial attempt. > > Tufte's USA Today stuff is fine for sales brochures and nutrition > information labels -- man pages should be the developer speaking to the > user, and that happens in English. > > My commitment to this opinion is insufficiently intense to cause me to > take any action beyond whining on the internet. > > khm > Furthermore, it appears Tufte is speaking specifically about quantitative materials. I'm not confident flags are quantitative. Having said this, I agree with sl, and either way I will obviously do nothing about it. -Kyle