From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14851 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2021 17:01:47 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Apr 2021 17:01:47 -0000 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]) by 1ess; Fri Apr 23 12:54:10 -0400 2021 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD611312A4 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:50:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :to:subject:date:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=MciSDJ2sxn8BA6vQpxz4CHsoy Q65D+gWcUW6XrBa2jM=; b=b6u95vWF0ln03PXFPBlGp1DRKY/NKfY19KHNtkZxG AuZWIVnQ5s8NOfqMRbAQc8xzTQCEE/q0Rl/yRSgL6eI0UaHuMNmYMjwFcrfhdQuB 5oUQXVlydNlPrEIZsVKqSlsbfIbWGk/rb1t2tw/Cim/ptpn8DPIKGoREFLP3qq01 /M= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273D91312A3 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:50:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Received: from peregrin (unknown [47.34.135.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 706C61312A2 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:50:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Message-ID: <52FF8FCFDD0F56AB8692024C94BD53F6@smtp.pobox.com> To: 9front@9front.org Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:50:43 -0700 From: unobe@cpan.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 0C474E82-A454-11EB-A5FC-D609E328BF65-09620299!pb-smtp21.pobox.com List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: distributed app SSL over AJAX configuration-aware pipelining database factory Subject: Re: [9front] rpi4 wifi USB dongle Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoth hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>: > yeah, sadly that doesn't go into depth at all. > > proxy arp is not general enough to solve the real problem with wifi > (e.g. for ipv6 or dhcp). > the problem with wifi is that it cannot be bridged in the traditional > (as per ethernet spec) way. > and we already have mat damon as a solution on 9front. you have quoted > the summary of the explanation above already, if you check mat damon > there's more details if you're curious, or you just ask and you'll get > even more details about this horror. > > tap devices are incidental side-effect of how qemu/kvm works on > unix/linux, has nothing to do with this problem. Thanks for giving me more details, hiro. I probably missed the reference where to find mat damon outside of the silver screen, so took a little digging to find it. In case anyone else wants to see the code, it's @ /sys/src/9/port/wifi.c:/^dmatproxy . cpu% lookman 'matt? damon' cpu% cd /sys/man cpu% walk -f | xargs grep -i 'matt? damon' cpu% cd /sys/src cpu% g 'matt? damon' cpu% cd /n/extra cpu% grep 'matt? damon' INDEX cpu% I googled and saw @ http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2018/02/02/0/: wifi: matt damon wifi bridging support which then led me to look more closely at port/wifi.c .