From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE61D220B9 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2024 20:02:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sirjofri.de ([5.45.105.127]) by 9front; Tue Aug 6 13:57:43 -0400 2024 Received: from dummy.faircode.eu ([31.16.254.19]) by sirjofri.de; Tue Aug 6 19:57:39 +0200 2024 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 19:57:34 +0200 (GMT+02:00) From: sirjofri To: 9front@9front.org Message-ID: <54760429-d8ee-49e1-a99d-5f1ce649f9cf@sirjofri.de> In-Reply-To: References: <6FB99C7720140A4B3969EA601A4B3588@eigenstate.org> <20240805115126.rm47l4ifx7rrwgtx@black> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Correlation-ID: <54760429-d8ee-49e1-a99d-5f1ce649f9cf@sirjofri.de> List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: object-oriented template template dependency storage Subject: Re: [9front] Thoughts on Wayland? Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk 06.08.2024 18:40:31 hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>: >> needs to be. Plus, AA really benefits everyone, and >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Rendering_Extension is only for fonts, not >> for arbitrary graphics. (Same problem as on Plan 9. Should we blame Keith >> Packard for not going further than just font rendering?) There's no way to >> have AA in arbitrary 2D graphics rendered on the X server, AFAIK. > > What do you need AA for at all? It just makes everything look blurry > to me, and even for fonts I often disable this behavior (Though at my > low resolution that works only for high quality fonts that have good > hinting parameters embedded). > A lot of software depends on hand-crafted pixel art in their icons, I > see only downsides, let's avoid resampling and AA completely unless we > render our own oversampled images from something of much higher or > infinite (vector) resolution (for example like with fonts). As for fonts, you are right. But for line rendering and graphics, AA has some benefits in many cases. Take a line that's thinner than a pixel. Can you see it without any subpixel calculation? When they're diagonally you often see just a few portions of that line. Or a grid, textures in the distance. Moire patterns? sirjofri