From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5735 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2022 19:33:05 -0000 Received: from 4ess.inri.net (216.126.196.42) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Feb 2022 19:33:05 -0000 Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com ([46.235.227.24]) by 4ess; Sat Feb 12 14:19:14 -0500 2022 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=quintile.net; s=mythic-beasts-k1; h=To:Date:Subject:From; bh=F9Q/hO/Iyp4lEl9Anwz35H/4O6sEGtl5NWUzClyMboI=; b=A7xQOX4OytKuC5CLvg0PQkqos1 9fiQPCVnmGXES+FifndQ4T8O23M4JuJxtXWWFR0iyfFIbR1vaqRLlrF7lGCfQuOG8/edkv2ojJJMT L86Cmn2GwUkhRVpJzfXdWpX3CKaN47oBw60K3A5eKhqnDMDO36gmFrbIYjOciOU69T12IHo2HJ+o9 LT1TedeDf+7ltS34qlR98F6ut6gUbX/P76+hayqLtWePmsYfE9YcvyPUmms2ENHaB9/oah3cn2xmL dlexkRt7U0ar+WWwsr+G5iAUXSS+tOaIT+ZsQ4YtSjL0Dbdjrg5mCE98KmznN6Zh7aaHrYw9AYFQg s56iGxCQ==; Received: from [81.187.198.132] (port=55097 helo=smtpclient.apple) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1nIxQ1-0008Ui-BB for 9front@9front.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:46:53 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Steve Simon Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:46:47 +0000 Message-Id: <5FC4FAA8-FB1D-464B-97DB-ED467195F0D3@quintile.net> References: In-Reply-To: To: 9front@9front.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19C63) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 4 List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: ISO-certified leveraged rich-client package Subject: Re: [9front] pi4 wifi and audio Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk i assume you mean adding a DAC to I2S, I2C doesn=E2=80=99t have the bandwidt= h for quality audio even at 400khz. using and external dac over I2S can make a very significant (very measurable= ) difference to the quality of the audio you can extract from a rpi. the most important part of this is locking the pi=E2=80=99s i2s stream to ex= ternal crystals, and having quiet power supplies for the dac and any downstr= eam gain stages. i am afraid $1 chinese usb dacs are a poor second choice. -Steve > On 12 Feb 2022, at 6:16 pm, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFyes, miller's version has wifi. i don't remember if anybody did t= he > work to bring it to 9front, but in any case they didn't finish it ( =3D=3D= > mainline it). >=20 > audio, some people wasted their time with the incomplete audio > solution in the rpi, it but then gave up IIRC. > some people like to add a DAC to the I2C bus, but i consider that also > a waste of time, esp. as long as you can get 1$ USB->audio converters > including shipping from china, the quality is 100% matching the rpi > hardware, and a lot better than most DIY rpi audio add-ons. >=20 > as much as i hate USB, for soundcards that's good enough and we > already support it. >=20 >> On 2/12/22, thinktankworkspaces@gmail.com = wrote: >> So 9front on pi4 seems pretty stable. But has anyone got audio and wifi >> working. I recall >> reading some place that pi hardware developers kind of deviated from >> convention so its a bit >> tricky to get some of that stuff working. Perhaps I might also be asking f= or >> some sort of >> guide to read on how to build or deal with making drivers in 9front and s= ome >> troubleshooting >> steps to follow. Ponies and Unicorns I want those also, so yea. >>=20