From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10758 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2022 00:11:29 -0000 Received: from 4ess.inri.net (216.126.196.42) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Feb 2022 00:11:29 -0000 Received: from mail-qt1-f175.google.com ([209.85.160.175]) by 4ess; Sat Feb 12 18:44:48 -0500 2022 Received: by mail-qt1-f175.google.com with SMTP id x5so12302342qtw.10 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:44:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:message-id:to:subject:date:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t3OVOHI63LPjkbK81BGVR0OSY1qJoExJ103TxOUassM=; b=RqMaXWcZqWoXcw163Mwvl7Z7jqItXYTJ0Pe/Jqyx0I1MLTamxy/Q9rlpHkHIFT7hB2 8K8j9hBhQNU3XRCK90qAVEJMo9TJ/axuqGfaezF2KPumjH6A8/dsp+AAk+KWCEg30Mno G+pi1sTuUTbyggtR62m1PijWajJKSiOik3q5wTFq25s3vNngZRI+zLLfKn6pVKpzPGOb vjN/6TcSAQA6o1GGBFiRRRKhe2BpnW4o/6jvU43Qo/0LNApjJ5JRAg5oDQIncvHCtJcE lRgd1Bq63c/vieDilpqERv8xi7tjxNB9DtBZ31UcsCwINd+lLRQro8ASB3iuFBEzbgW3 eebw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:to:subject:date:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t3OVOHI63LPjkbK81BGVR0OSY1qJoExJ103TxOUassM=; b=b3hbl1KmvY5bYsntZujnH1GgbtP9eGNc/Rqp4oTGvz0aDQ/ho7m8Qvcx2J8/6kRV+d Hojj3SC8uLNRc/6z6dEwTBISANCrCDw0b6oh38NGB+qUosEpsQrA78e1zQz/iE9zLoyn hYFRoP/jYdawv8UDfemlr4kkmoqDh80AqeV5QMpfabtWh+1uriyf9W7XOWOHN9vLxtdP pXf7AUGBBEpQCSAQvLnNH2XAiKy6/x2aMp6jTSng8KTjqLWfY39JG9A52I0w5l2B+9Ct RvVoNpDsUgZ41OjdaePHD8PGqZjG8hI0oUw8sdaXR+K44dmgaSMC9T+YnRlyMrV2bqjS YEHw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531vIjz0cVsgRdcVWQxNl9DZyUNwVI7+F9HQsyZwTMQ9InLGI1co xNr/sfW26dHh737jmYhyaUbKuQpqc08= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyDULjvm4clyJ8yixipg48QCu43T+vn8tyPzjRR5+3wVJUNGSj7t+OYczDEN+fNDWY7q6PykA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:1ce:: with SMTP id t14mr5439586qtw.19.1644705918676; Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:45:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from cirno.thinktank (107-200-43-169.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.200.43.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f20sm15760638qte.14.2022.02.12.14.45.17 for <9front@9front.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:45:18 -0800 (PST) From: thinktankworkspaces@gmail.com X-Google-Original-From: glenda@gmail.com Message-ID: <6403CC303B834A70F53A520558BED0EB@gmail.com> To: 9front@9front.org Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 14:45:13 -0800 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: full-stack software high-performance API-scale interface Subject: Re: [9front] pi4 wifi and audio Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Thaddeus Woskowiak : > I don't think Miller's wifi does WPA or any auth. Though I've not ran > Miller's pi image in a long time. Miller's wifi driver is also different > from 9 front's WiFi driver so it's not a simple port. > > For good pi audio I use a Dayton USB DAC which outputs pretty clean audio. > > Unfortunately the pi uses a really crummy SoC as it started life as an > EoL'd chip for set-top boxes. That's why it does weird crap like boot from > the GPU and lacked proper Ethernet for ages. Even Pi founder Ebbon Upton > was unable to grasp why people wanted proper Ethernet as the pi was only > ever meant for teaching. It's an educational toy built from a chip > scrounged from the cut out bin but everyone seems to want to ignore that > part. You get what you pay for. > > I tend to prefer cheap embedded PC's off eBay or itx Celeron SoC boards if > I need a small low power system. > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022, 1:11 PM wrote: > > > So 9front on pi4 seems pretty stable. But has anyone got audio and wifi > > working. I recall > > reading some place that pi hardware developers kind of deviated from > > convention so its a bit > > tricky to get some of that stuff working. Perhaps I might also be asking > > for some sort of > > guide to read on how to build or deal with making drivers in 9front and > > some troubleshooting > > steps to follow. Ponies and Unicorns I want those also, so yea. > > > Interesting. Seems like a lot of wasted effort. Unless as you say using pi as a teaching experiement. So what about hackboard2. Kind of the same specs but Intel. I'm wondering if it will just boot 9front and work without too much fuss.