From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17299 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2023 00:28:55 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Aug 2023 00:28:55 -0000 Received: from gaff.inri.net ([168.235.71.243]) by 9front; Thu Aug 10 20:26:57 -0400 2023 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([107.122.96.178]) by gaff; Thu Aug 10 20:26:57 -0400 2023 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:26:55 -0400 From: Stanley Lieber To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A045D11-60EE-44F8-A1AE-3D4A68501149@stanleylieber.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: core interface app Subject: Re: [9front] "Touching the Artwork" strikes again Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk i think there is a lot of crosstalk and confusion here, and i for one am no= t even clear what anyone in this thread actually wants=2E probably just wri= ting a complete spec for what you want and then posting it on the mailing l= ist and then waiting for everyone to never ever mention it again would be m= ore coherent than this current who's on first routine (see also: the long l= anguishing proposal for a new bug tracker)=2E another alternative would be = implementing the thing you want and then posting diffs on the mailing list = and waiting for it to get shot down=2E what doesn't help is oblique referen= ces to a dude who ran windows on his thinkpad for the last year of his life= and isn't here to defend himself=2E there is room for throwing stones at a lot of stuff in plan 9, even before= 9front came along=2E what's great about the past few years is so much expe= rimentation and new stuff to argue about=2E the very best part is that, unl= ike the status quo when uriel was alive, all these folks are actually shari= ng code=2E we've come a long way=2E sl