From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25514 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2021 08:01:00 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jul 2021 08:01:00 -0000 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com ([173.228.157.53]) by 1ess; Sun Jul 4 00:59:19 -0400 2021 Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A433131507 for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 00:56:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :to:subject:date:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=1H2OgdmFVCLe8XxAvkW95or9H UCJ+JUPEXs9tqiDxLQ=; b=ybCIDF1gy5WAP5COPuFOs22uNsfgP/y7xEvEQra9U U61RHbKRf1+2hwLHOLfaMNTCUnQ6ST5ZlMzL/+AcYW7hD4WxVT65qQ2xzDXBccXI zkcM4zFIcyvuvmkUR7QszEKruhO58SnnxeTPeLoYLu1gYmsvUEDm+gsd8xHNkYki B4= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455A3131506 for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 00:56:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Received: from samwise (unknown [47.34.135.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B028131503 for <9front@9front.org>; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 00:56:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Message-ID: <751AB701E501497C357EA0A134B326B7@smtp.pobox.com> To: 9front@9front.org Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2021 21:55:58 -0700 From: unobe@cpan.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 20A26DA4-DC84-11EB-8530-FA9E2DDBB1FC-09620299!pb-smtp21.pobox.com List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: encrypted hypervisor Subject: Re: [9front] suggestion for a domestic 9front fs Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoting cinap_lenrek@felloff.net: > > A domestic 9front fileserver can be anything from a RPI, to a racked > > server, including a laptop in a closet, or a virtual machine. > > i'd like to challenge that. raspberry pi's are anything BUT a good > fileservers. for one, it has no sata nor pcie slot for nvme. > so you'r limited to usb. > > the only raspberry pi with a not completely useless usb implementation > is the pi4 (also the only model that has a built in ethernet mac instead > of some horrible usb contraption). > > the raspberry pi is a machine with lots of compromises. > really, it is a graphics card with a arm processor on the side. > > and imho it is not really worth it spending alot of money working around > its limitations with adding expensive external gadgets that will add up > to more than the machine itself. > > especially usb disk adapters can cause you problems... What cinap wrote has been my experience. I wanted to get onto some real hardware, and thought the pi4 would be a good start. I did learn quite a bit and still have 9front running on it, but I came up against two things that I really wanted to use it for that currently aren't available on 9front: * wifi support * virtualization Wifi I think is supported in rmiller's port, but then you don't get the benefit of a lot more software (if you're not running separate cpu/auth/fs).