From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.19]) by ewsd; Mon Jun 10 08:47:20 EDT 2019 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DF24A8 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap2 ([10.202.2.52]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:47:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm3; bh=JEw4Q eSBACGlE6lCBIPhSa5YaJQBykPhgpsUGzTGY5M=; b=aqdqzsYDXJ5BV4tzA2ddK +IrhgkvXliDfpGwDqi+cmG5R3AdSkKiDe0AOLIk9FbEAq4o+s7i7m0KYDWz5Z6s9 NOt5xW1sQZPwkI7X62jVLhtyXhzUQJV7f3cvBkHj38v7lhJ1w9L4cohEcIi0au6Y zIQl9ql/a3KCvrVZ5sfTHrHB4i2JxCyFlcIrvBy7TMakM2QsISLKmNyi7nEif+Ke 7/j7w1iM/JowBh/GpaxlzEzIji7W7cZM2yITUrbNiy1CccqGIieRuKFmk5lTwOH0 LVHwloks4hn31q5mHKBLMlA1sDeL6tOa2jvSmFgWs5VjCRsoXXCe4T8iPD9H+fbC A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=JEw4QeSBACGlE6lCBIPhSa5YaJQBykPhgpsUGzTGY 5M=; b=GLfa6b/8/R+TK8lWOIsq2qdyVKjgbxK7+rb3V0GCaWHbzuk7NJ2Z+eHau +EC3keGRas/vetZhtI6uguBSq/Da9yW35VbCIczBDtCWpV+F0/9vs5rHnoel0Bsk x++Y2X6BOk+mqoXFy+JpjiZRJqWz3HwPbE+dY1NhT6auqti0kXGesNMsIRf99WVv 6/SKbiZdv5QH0aEnuRj7RZhSmYrKq84cVuviufKDJKG4HIyP1dNKEgwQA6zNbQUm 4d/kKYP2OPlO4+v3wIwv62wpO7e3AU8YcuT0FuV69HfUs/sKSFZEtmtuQKF4zoud C6ua4Yu3me4qTchLR5n3ILBf2Swyw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddrudehvddgheejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtgfesth hqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdfgthhhrghnucfirghruggvnhgvrhdfuceovggvkhgv vgehjeesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhfmheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpegtrghtqdhvrdhorhhgne curfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegvvghkvggvheejsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrfhhm necuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1A262E00A1; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:47:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.6-663-gf46ad30-fmstable-20190607v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <7ae07b53-1087-45c5-838d-5b429859e8d2@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:47:00 +0100 From: "Ethan Gardener" To: 9front@9front.org Subject: Re: [9front] Need help with configuring the Internet Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: blockchain descriptor framework On Mon, Jun 10, 2019, at 9:43 AM, vp@kvik.link wrote: >=20 > The papers in /sys/doc, the supplemental choice of documents > on cat-v.org, the manual pages, the source code itself, and > spending some time hanging out with and getting to know the > community and its ways should, in no particular order, be > enough to jeopardize your (prospective) computer-themed > career. Tell me about it! I ended up in Forth, which is possibly even worse. ;)= Thinking Forth 1994 edition contains: > A line from a typical Forth application might read: > 20 ROTATE LEFT TURRET > Few other languages would encourage you to concoct a subroutine called= LEFT, > merely as a modifier, or a subroutine called TURRET, merely to name pa= rt of > the hardware. There's a nice little quote in the last chapter: > The idea of =E2=80=9Chuman scale=E2=80=9D is, I think, today=E2=80=99s= seminal concept in software > design. This isn=E2=80=99t specifically a Forth development; the great= joy of UNIX, > in its youth at least, was that you could read it (since it was writte= n in C), > understand it (since it was small), and modify it (since it was simple= ). Forth > shares these virtues, although it=E2=80=99s designed to tackle a diffe= rent sort of problem. --=20 Experts working at the FSB and E centers are able to detect "signs of ex= tremism" even in the borscht recipe.