From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by 10.236.108.44 with SMTP id p32cs37553yhg; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <9front+bncCIfk-sO2AhDsvuXsBBoE7WLuFQ@googlegroups.com> Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 9front+bncCIfk-sO2AhDsvuXsBBoE7WLuFQ@googlegroups.com designates 10.143.1.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.143.1.19; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of 9front+bncCIfk-sO2AhDsvuXsBBoE7WLuFQ@googlegroups.com designates 10.143.1.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=9front+bncCIfk-sO2AhDsvuXsBBoE7WLuFQ@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=9front+bncCIfk-sO2AhDsvuXsBBoE7WLuFQ@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.143.1.19]) by 10.143.1.19 with SMTP id d19mr3209312wfi.69.1301897068400 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:04:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:to:subject:from:date :message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jpo6buaVg81jVzuTYuDo/SUxyIXqV06NKH3cu9epbiA=; b=mKF+LC7FhB06gO4PMFWPo2bK9zqsDdJkiCWr0TcS10gPx5RJFSZTCruoHbvng2jbsH dvxfz5DWupO7j7Iv+kzfZ2v/qiXePA/hRdyEgTDfhf5OGcEhXPcUzO6mLc73zaADJojm uijX3gJdxloM3e3lm4A2u/fn9Q7nyHyAdixx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:to:subject:from:date:message-id :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=PA7jPi9dVEb4hCyf8EacZNecR45M/y39fYj+T+v8OpXi4y4qs6tG2M0O0og+Eg8koS Tsdg4alVjjlkR0gb89AK5k+g5q2oYOxI3jijWEHWXk3fIT26F5TzhqvGrOuMzsB4EuSt Oyr6nsKNizoSe5+UJV2LpxOWU/o6OoKHh7Oe8= Received: by 10.143.1.19 with SMTP id d19mr900937wfi.69.1301897068281; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:04:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: 9front@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.97.18 with SMTP id u18ls3258209wfb.2.p; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.196.4 with SMTP id t4mr4984155wff.11.1301897067622; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.196.4 with SMTP id t4mr4984154wff.11.1301897067587; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix.inri.net (phoenix.inri.net [174.136.104.194]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u26si4826239wfc.5.2011.04.03.23.04.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 174.136.104.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of stanley.lieber@gmail.com) client-ip=174.136.104.194; Received: from stanleylieber.com (68-179-130-17.bsr-c9-d1.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net [68.179.130.17]) by phoenix.inri.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p3464C9w009069 for <9front@googlegroups.com>; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:04:15 -0500 (CDT) To: 9front@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: package manager? seriously? From: "Stanley Lieber" Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: <7d18540181b614f80fa21beb00091ad1@stanleylieber.com> In-Reply-To: <87y63qk2r6.fsf@hydra.violetti.org> References: <41D312FB-F15E-4DC5-8B8F-2EDEA44460A2@fastmail.fm> <87y63qk2r6.fsf@hydra.violetti.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: stanley.lieber@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 174.136.104.194 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of stanley.lieber@gmail.com) smtp.mail=stanley.lieber@gmail.com Reply-To: 9front@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list 9front@googlegroups.com; contact 9front+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: <9front.googlegroups.com> X-Google-Group-Id: 831096995978 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: 9front@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > All I am thinking of is: > + copy files quickly over network > + install avoiding clobbering local files > + provide remove/upgrade > + don't start with config file madness > + don't do complex dependencies fgb has also expressed interesting in a replacement for contrib. One of the problems with contrib is the reliance on /n/sources as the central repository. sources is slow, it depends on the continued goodwill of the Labs for its existence, and there is no provision for fetching files from alternate locations. OpenBSD's ports system may be a good source of inspiration. -sl