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> On Aug 16, 2021, at 3:13 PM, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> also, i fear people who have to be coerced with nice words to doubt
> themselves are not welcome here. by using harsh words we make a point
> of not even trying to convince them.

Conversation ends here and nobody achieved anything.  In the end, the
best result is people learn to ignore some emails; the worst result is
people get angrier.

> in the end the learning effect is much greater when they realize they
> made the decision themselves.