From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4061 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2023 05:05:11 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Jun 2023 05:05:11 -0000 Received: from gaff.inri.net ([168.235.71.243]) by 9front; Mon Jun 5 01:04:04 -0400 2023 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([168.235.81.123]) by gaff; Mon Jun 5 01:04:04 -0400 2023 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 01:04:03 -0400 From: Stanley Lieber To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83CC67F1-547F-48BA-92AF-302D35CB97E2@stanleylieber.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: extensible rich-client database app-scale optimizer Subject: Re: [9front] Free Carrots #6: Tools For Fighting WiFi Inequality Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk On June 4, 2023 3:32:15 PM EDT, hiro <23hiro@gmail=2Ecom> wrote: >so, like a factor 5=2E >2=2E4ghz wifi is useless for me here even with linux/windows/android=2E i >live in a higher density area with too much interference from >neighbors=2E >5ghz stuff otoh has much more regular latencies, i=2Ee=2E less jitter fro= m >re-transmissions after collisions=2E probably mainly bec=2E the >attenuation in our brick walls is a lot higher for 5ghz (unlike for >2=2E4ghz)=2E >also, there's less other crap l ike bluetooth on the 5ghz band=2E 2=2E4gh= z >is way too overcrowded=2E >the big big big downside though is that there aren't many usable bands >in 5ghz that aren't plagued by DFS procedures, also making all but 4 >channels practically unusable in my area=2E still, for me, 5ghz still >helps a lot, just it isn't good enough when you don't have nice brick >walls (i=2Ee=2E it's great in old european 100 years old houses=2E but su= cks >in america)=2E > >i have high hopes for wifi6E or wifi7 devices with full 6ghz band >support=2E i think once there is a driver and hostapd support for this >on linux/bsd, it will become very much worth the effort to try and >support it fully=2E >6ghz stuff might finally become universally useful internationally=2E > >On 6/4/23, sl@stanleylieber=2Ecom wrote: >>> what is the tput result for the "300mbps" bridge? >> >> x1 yoga 3rd gen w/ ethernet to wifi bridge: >> >> ; cat /n/rachael/usr/bin/* | tput >> 406=2E34 KB/s >> 406=2E86 KB/s >> 433=2E90 KB/s >> 392=2E23 KB/s >> 411=2E39 KB/s >> 426=2E37 KB/s >> 412=2E73 KB/s >> 405=2E03 KB/s >> 415=2E13 KB/s >> 419=2E22 KB/s >> 418=2E93 KB/s >> 418=2E68 KB/s >> 420=2E32 KB/s >> 415=2E44 KB/s >> 420=2E81 KB/s >> 426=2E01 KB/s >> 427=2E78 KB/s >> 431=2E57 KB/s >> 435=2E38 KB/s >> 438=2E81 KB/s >> 440=2E77 KB/s >> 441=2E46 KB/s >> 441=2E40 KB/s >> 442=2E68 KB/s >> 443=2E21 KB/s >> 444=2E32 KB/s >> 446=2E82 KB/s >> 448=2E58 KB/s >> 449=2E94 KB/s >> 451=2E21 KB/s >> 452=2E39 KB/s >> 453=2E76 KB/s >> 454=2E07 KB/s >> >> thanks, i've added this to the article=2E >> >> sl >> > i get different kinds of transient problems depending on different combina= tions of factors, but the disparity between mpcie and m=2E2 cards is pretty= consistent=2E i don't know if the type of pci connection really matters at= all, or if it's just a coincidence that these newer cards suddenly perform= so much worse precisely when they switched to m=2E2=2E i haven't researched ethernet to wifi bridges methodically=2E the iogear t= hing worked well enough that i didn't continue buying new devices=2E it see= ms likely there are more options than just 2=2E4ghz, but this thing is very= small and fairly cheap and actually works for my use case=2E yes, wifi sucks, but the same hardware us usable for my tasks on other ope= rating systems, but sucks with 9front=2E this to me suggests that wifi suck= ing isn't the whole story=2E sl