From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21617 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2021 10:47:03 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Mar 2021 10:47:03 -0000 Received: from st43p00im-ztfb10071701.me.com ([17.58.63.173]) by 1ess; Thu Mar 4 05:40:14 -0500 2021 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=1a1hai; t=1614854408; bh=JzsbQvKycVFCX1j7AkKrZ25RfD7jaksU3KP+bBIeW8I=; h=From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To:Message-Id; b=VBLedRKGE5xYsHDj8gcD/KYqb9SY/RK499Ft8plJ6e33a06i/gAQ71U8OIBwf2yf7 lGBXXlzMHtOUYWCoeu1NgJrWncWQCFg821kbqVFxFbJ0c1kEtlrcULywgZVk7lST67 6K9qHPgR2mYLE46wLwiTBdL65unMGSPuLZmJpoK0nbllXRmW4/ZQybmkUZQhGg96vW cy2Ff5ct6/sXWIbzJvpMPTigV+aCeQFETVL3i0YCiM8JAyp4qb3QT2cSEU92hCJFrs wnuoMZvkcH/50h92MKW8hrl7ITvkquwKcjUaGWsLzsk4twnwcLnC6kM2ntrPoXd7xq l6rufiSRnR6Lg== Received: from [192.168.1.52] (unknown [93.56.117.77]) by st43p00im-ztfb10071701.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 242468A0439 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 4 Mar 2021 10:40:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Daniel Morandini Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 11:40:06 +0100 References: <9EAB7D15-0A8B-4B7C-87FA-D37B0DA0E168@me.com> <3238f626-0230-be85-acf7-4887e67a5e0f@typed-hole.org> <26A8DA0D-848E-4C24-AACC-BBBB613FFDC8@me.com> To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8F461D18-758E-4E6D-B5E4-9188C9B2DD61@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: =?UTF-8?Q?vendor=3Dfsecure_engine=3D1.1.170-22c6f66c430a71ce266a39bfe25bc?= =?UTF-8?Q?2903e8d5c8f:6.0.369,18.0.761,17.0.607.475.0000000_definitions?= =?UTF-8?Q?=3D2021-03-04=5F03:2021-03-03=5F01,2021-03-04=5F03,2020-04-07?= =?UTF-8?Q?=5F01_signatures=3D0?= X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 clxscore=1015 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=417 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2103040047 List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: leveraged responsive full-stack shader out-scaling metadata Subject: Re: [9front] rpi4 wifi USB dongle Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > An ethernet client is a computer with a mac address. >=20 > Given you have a group of M clients and another group of N clients and > you want to connect them, plug the M clients into a switch with M+1 > ports on one side and the N clients into a switch with N+1 ports on > the other side, then use the remaining port and a long cable to > connect them together. >=20 > Imagine now the M-AP is a wifi router, and you want to connect it to the N (not AP) over wifi. >=20 > but here when wifi comes into play not every client is the same. you > have many wifi stations and just one wifi *ap*, if we make M-AP the > wifi AP, you can bridge all the M clients just fine. that works on AP > side. You mean =E2=80=9Cthat works on M side" right? > But if you want to bridge a wifi *station* on the other side, you can > not. a station can only bridge N=3D1 mac addresses into a wifi. I=E2=80=99m getting there: practically I would have to make N-AP connect = as a client to M-AP to keep the only one ap limitation, but at that point the new link would not be able to mux more than one ethernet client becoming useless for my usecase, did I get it right? > We have some code in 9front called mat damon, which is like NAT, but > for MAC addresses instead of IP addresses. This way one mac address > can hide all the N other mac addresses and translate between them. But > that's obviously a layer violation, a stupid hack that only exists due > to the limitation of wifi. :D dan=