From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E8121562 for ; Wed, 8 May 2024 20:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx2.mythic-beasts.com ([46.235.227.24]) by 9front; Wed May 8 14:00:16 -0400 2024 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=quintile.net; s=mythic-beasts-k1; h=To:Date:Subject:From; bh=jJOj94RvxEtnw5aEOalDr+4Yqx/8P2OhFynAn3gBtjs=; b=LCm86QssarvNV156izn8VMhufH 4n0y1p3L9lzz9FmwWGFLhdG+zkccFWM2JR0Psffy8rPg3MZ80Zew1jo5bZ7/HOPJmAKTRQdBObNQu yVpZetLqEi2wNnPAfs/8Dc48vxNHh1f4iLaw/ulOXyQgEOaTrNLatpc0iD/lCw2xU4Q2A4G84EGXi oSp+ekKcA+jMGL3Wr/3DExo6moJB/oPjAMhRHZwnKJp7uy1FnHTXi5ty/L+5X+mTPnnXfEXWQ2IWc 1quXeMvZeRZzpSrD5t2G+su14+76g1UcJ0hhFe972CpvS9WyJWsI7PUPWfqWAj/SN45PqHiajtHSr /XPX8Iwg==; Received: by mailhub-hex-d.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s4laQ-002WM1-OF for 9front@9front.org; Wed, 08 May 2024 19:00:14 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Steve Simon Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 19:00:03 +0100 Message-Id: <959A32F8-1D62-4FEE-8E33-E46AFAA7FB15@quintile.net> References: In-Reply-To: To: 9front@9front.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (20H330) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: 4 List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: self-healing structured replication-scale hypervisor Subject: Re: [9front] Enabling a service Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk re: why plan9 was started i may be wrong but as i remember, a significant driver was the amount of wor= k required to manage peoples sun workstations. it was felt that moving to a central file store and using caching locally i= n terminals (cfs(8)) would be a better approach and would mean there is a si= ngle filesystem to look after. cfs works fairly well on low latency low bandwidth links (dialup) but much l= ess well on modern high bandwidth higher latency links. its not that modern l= atency is so high, more that the modern experience leads us to expect a bett= er experience than it can offer. a better caching filesystem/protocol would be a big win for remote plan9 ac= cess IMHO. i did wonder about something that used venti hashes to pass cache= coherency data between remote systems, and then allowed them to resynchroni= se efficiently - but nothing came of it. -Steve