* [9front] feature request: log rotation
@ 2021-02-09 15:36 Stanley Lieber
2021-02-16 4:53 ` [9front] " magma698hfsp273p9f
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From: Stanley Lieber @ 2021-02-09 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9front
a machine sitting still should not fill up its own disk. let's design a sane default.
sl
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* [9front] Re: feature request: log rotation
2021-02-09 15:36 [9front] feature request: log rotation Stanley Lieber
@ 2021-02-16 4:53 ` magma698hfsp273p9f
2021-02-16 23:34 ` Stanley Lieber
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From: magma698hfsp273p9f @ 2021-02-16 4:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9front
Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> writes:
> a machine sitting still should not fill up its own disk. let's design
> a sane default.
Isn't that the whole idea behind the WORM filesystem paradigm? Never
delete anything, just add more storage. Right?
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* Re: [9front] Re: feature request: log rotation
2021-02-16 4:53 ` [9front] " magma698hfsp273p9f
@ 2021-02-16 23:34 ` Stanley Lieber
2021-02-17 7:45 ` sirjofri
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From: Stanley Lieber @ 2021-02-16 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9front
On February 15, 2021 11:53:42 PM EST, magma698hfsp273p9f@icebubble.org wrote:
>Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> writes:
>
>> a machine sitting still should not fill up its own disk. let's design
>> a sane default.
>
>Isn't that the whole idea behind the WORM filesystem paradigm? Never
>delete anything, just add more storage. Right?
>
i have seen many worms filled without human intervention. that's what i'd like to prevent.
i can roll my own log rotation, but why not provide a sensible default?
note: not all systems have a worm partition or are running dumps. the worm actually makes the problem worse.
sl
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* Re: [9front] Re: feature request: log rotation
2021-02-16 23:34 ` Stanley Lieber
@ 2021-02-17 7:45 ` sirjofri
2021-02-17 14:59 ` Stanley Lieber
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: sirjofri @ 2021-02-17 7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stanley Lieber
17.02.2021 00:34:17 Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com>:
> On February 15, 2021 11:53:42 PM EST, magma698hfsp273p9f@icebubble.org
> wrote:
>> Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> writes:
>>
>>> a machine sitting still should not fill up its own disk. let's design
>>> a sane default.
>>
>> Isn't that the whole idea behind the WORM filesystem paradigm? Never
>> delete anything, just add more storage. Right?
>>
>
> i have seen many worms filled without human intervention. that's what
> i'd like to prevent.
>
> i can roll my own log rotation, but why not provide a sensible default?
>
> note: not all systems have a worm partition or are running dumps. the
> worm actually makes the problem worse.
I thought dump only writes changed blocks, so if I don't write anything
it doesn't fill the disk?
(Log files set to temporary)
sirjofri
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* Re: [9front] Re: feature request: log rotation
2021-02-17 7:45 ` sirjofri
@ 2021-02-17 14:59 ` Stanley Lieber
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Stanley Lieber @ 2021-02-17 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9front
On February 17, 2021 2:45:55 AM EST, sirjofri <sirjofri+ml-9front@sirjofri.de> wrote:
>
>17.02.2021 00:34:17 Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com>:
>> On February 15, 2021 11:53:42 PM EST, magma698hfsp273p9f@icebubble.org
>> wrote:
>>> Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> a machine sitting still should not fill up its own disk. let's design
>>>> a sane default.
>>>
>>> Isn't that the whole idea behind the WORM filesystem paradigm? Never
>>> delete anything, just add more storage. Right?
>>>
>>
>> i have seen many worms filled without human intervention. that's what
>> i'd like to prevent.
>>
>> i can roll my own log rotation, but why not provide a sensible default?
>>
>> note: not all systems have a worm partition or are running dumps. the
>> worm actually makes the problem worse.
>
>I thought dump only writes changed blocks, so if I don't write anything
>it doesn't fill the disk?
>
>(Log files set to temporary)
>
>sirjofri
>
a lot of programs write to files under /sys/log/.
files under /sys/log/ are not chmod +t by default.
sl
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