From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14200 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2021 07:05:03 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Aug 2021 07:05:03 -0000 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com ([64.147.108.71]) by 1ess; Fri Aug 13 02:54:19 -0400 2021 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAF3E1DC3 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 02:44:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :to:subject:in-reply-to:date:from:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=CRRJCQLGUXD8yEIhMOB1w5Qea W9ycYQSByeLrvBibTY=; b=asRu+DPKH1kGxd9Cqrhq39SJF+1KYYBp9ttsFw1aM RmkOJXG2hYS9ulQKzvIDxDcnDfGvOZ82DQuTrom6N7SAB2PfWJ9RODtNf7mP9THb xgcrcFnkhFT1O9MhPyd8zi1rR+uz/FsLgDwrvnaILDm7nqc4ZWeTIACAeTDUXMN7 5A= Received: from pb-smtp2.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BDCE1DC2 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 02:44:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Received: from strider (unknown [47.34.135.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6E09E1DBF for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 02:44:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Message-ID: <9D0282916FEB7AB4CCD565BEE2B5889C@smtp.pobox.com> To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: <20210812163626.63c3fb64@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 23:44:43 -0700 From: unobe@cpan.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: F1FAE240-FC01-11EB-9405-FD8818BA3BAF-09620299!pb-smtp2.pobox.com List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: hardware shader grid-aware control Subject: Re: [9front] PATCH: click-to-focus in fgui Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Eckard Brauer : > > > I guess I really want the focus following my eyes. > > > > no you really don't > > I'd rather want focus to follow the mouse lazily as long as there's a > possibility to switch/cycle windows with the keyboard. So I usually > don't have an idea where the mouse pointer is left and do most of the > work with the keyboard. Mouse is only used for selecting/pasting. > > But that's not much approved (and maybe possible at all) on Plan 9. > IMHO it'd be best to leave the user to choose, if it's with a path or > compile time #ifdefs, it would be fine for me. Has anyone played with having the mouse cursor always followed the keyboard location, rather than the mouse always determining focus? I'm trying to think of times when I really need to have the mouse stay wherever it is on the screen while typing. More often than not, I have to move the mouse if it's over a couple letters that I need to see and perhaps it would be easier to always know where it is (the keyboard cursor when not being actively used). I think that might make it faster to write out something to run, copy, paste, etc.: most of the interactions I used the mouse in conjunction with the keyboard for.