From: David Arnold <davida@pobox.com>
To: 9front@9front.org
Cc: David Arnold <davida@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [9front] hackathon writeup
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2022 07:13:20 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C35074E3-E6AB-45BD-86E9-2824E85C3C5F@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG3JMtZfaBaAzp-JzfDenxp7E37wTL0NU0vPKBwAs1eAb6TjDg@mail.gmail.com>
> On 20 Aug 2022, at 05:52, Thaddeus Woskowiak <tswoskowiak@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The syscalls problem isn't that we don't know which ones to implement,
>> it's that Linux creates and deprecates them at a rate faster than anyone
>> can keep up with. I am positive this is the case worldwide, not just
>> for us -- otherwise, things like Docker on OS X would not virtualize an
>> entire OS just to make use of Linux containers. The engineering cost to
>> virtualize a platform and boot Linux on it is lower than the engineering
>> cost to keep up with whatever the hell the Linux horde throws at the
>> kernel this week.
>>
>> khm
>
> Indeed. Even Microsoft gave up emulating a Linux kernel in WSL and
> instead virtualize a Linux kernel in Hyper-V in WSL2.
To be fair, that was largely due to the impedance mismatch between Linux’
Unix-style syscalls and the NT kernel model causing performance problems.
That said, operating systems appear to have adapted to emulated hardware
better than applications have adapted to emulated operating systems.
d
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-19 21:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-17 3:27 ori
2022-08-18 22:37 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-18 22:52 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-18 23:09 ` Stanley Lieber
2022-08-18 23:32 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-18 23:11 ` Kurt H Maier
2022-08-18 23:33 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-18 23:55 ` Jacob Moody
2022-08-19 0:05 ` ori
2022-10-14 5:45 ` 9p2000.ix (Was Re: [9front] hackathon writeup) unobe
2022-08-19 11:34 ` [9front] hackathon writeup Stuart Morrow
2022-08-19 13:21 ` Jacob Moody
2022-08-18 23:04 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-18 23:24 ` ori
2022-08-18 23:37 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-18 23:43 ` ori
2022-08-19 0:02 ` Kurt H Maier
2022-08-19 0:23 ` qwx
2022-08-19 1:54 ` Kurt H Maier
2022-08-19 2:02 ` qwx
2022-08-19 7:08 ` Steve Simon
2022-08-20 1:38 ` Xiao-Yong Jin
2022-08-20 3:57 ` ori
2022-08-19 19:52 ` Thaddeus Woskowiak
2022-08-19 21:13 ` David Arnold [this message]
2022-08-19 19:11 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2022-08-19 20:40 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-20 13:14 ` Stuart Morrow
2022-08-22 17:54 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2022-08-22 17:56 ` Kurt H Maier
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