From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17699 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2022 02:05:20 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Aug 2022 02:05:20 -0000 Received: from wopr.sciops.net ([216.126.196.60]) by 9front; Thu Aug 18 22:03:00 -0400 2022 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sciops.net; s=20210706; t=1660874518; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=CF0yFmUd6Wk7T2CFbZDP1yqPQNySp+FF8g2bRcuW80s=; b=jIpyNoc56NFgjtk2CvQTSLJSCO25yS5b6CP3VXRBwzQxCAAevqFd+UJetfcAuVEV1xnYxq WPxuSDbpmWtJHCtmj1YGrjXy5BFus/nl52gUUWdyfw62eh9fz2eD49Au9xeWLPg3SaF8sm gpkdV6TMbWVc8HhPny5DELy6AYdDlxE= Received: by wopr.sciops.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id e89ab600 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256:NO) for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 19:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 04:02:54 +0200 From: qwx@sciops.net To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: progressive agile markup deep-learning controller Subject: Re: [9front] hackathon writeup Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > The X230 line in the sand is one we hashed out in IRC back when there > was much confusion regarding which SKUs Intel blessed with which > features at which times. There might be the odd *20-series or older > machine that managed to get a 'good' processor, but the X230 is the > first generation that *for sure* has the features. The further back in > time you go, the more of a crap shoot it is. I tend to just claim X230 > as the earliest as it greatly simplifies the issue. I see, that's what confused me. Thanks! Cheers, qwx