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From: Roman Shaposhnik <roman@shaposhnik.org>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: 9P2000.s vs 9P2020 vs. ? (Was Re: [9front] Slow cp, support for 9P2000.s)
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 17:07:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+ULb+vTrqUvF8CQk-fUTBG7H=ZdgPAn0oJxCc0fPe=bmg15FA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <133678F3-1EA1-446D-9313-F10F23C84936@cpan.org>

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:27 AM Romano <unobe@cpan.org> wrote:
>
> Since there's no existing discussion I can see, and IRC isn't meant for searching for answers to questions, is there anyone willing to summarize the state of solving problems like streaming for 9P?
>
> If Aiju remembers correctly, there were two things where 9P2000.s was found wanting:
> 1) it breaks the syscall interface; and
> 2) it forces 9P to run over TCP.
>
> FWIW, I finally finished reading through all of John's thesis, rather than just skimming, and I think John did a nice review of the previous work done in this area and presenting why he chose the solution he did.  His solution used TCP, but from his write-up, I don't see a technical reason why another transport protocol[1] could not be used. That would leave only breaking the syscall interface.

Any chance to see a link to John's thesis?

> Does breaking the syscall interface mean that it's merely adding a syscall? Or does it mean something else?
>
> Right now hget(1) is an rc script that uses webfs(4).  So if I'm at a terminal far away and am using webfs provided by the server I'm connected to, hget would be slow for a large file because the file would be transferred over 9P. It's no better than Plan 9's implementation, but no worse either.
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transport_layer_protocols


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-18  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-24  2:58 Slow cp, support for 9P2000.s Romano
2020-04-24  4:28 ` [9front] " aiju
2020-04-24  7:50   ` Romano
2020-04-24 11:36     ` aiju
2020-04-24 12:01       ` Jens Staal
2020-04-24 12:13         ` hiro
2020-04-24 12:32           ` Jens Staal
2020-04-24 12:38             ` rgl
2020-04-24 15:21               ` hiro
2020-05-13  8:26       ` 9P2000.s vs 9P2020 vs. ? (Was Re: [9front] Slow cp, support for 9P2000.s) Romano
2020-05-18  0:07         ` Roman Shaposhnik [this message]
2020-05-18  0:18           ` Romano
2020-05-18  0:23         ` ori
2020-05-18  9:10           ` hiro

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