From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com ([209.85.223.177]) by gl; Thu Jan 31 11:41:46 CST 2013 Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 16so2525926iea.8 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:41:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=ng06tEabyw8zIVp3uKx8lILawYfjxCkX+1Ckg9gAzmw=; b=slC+u0lxielSRe+TFT7MFQANPzSe7tMBA3ZRCYbTA4O64IUtoGAnvkiHyv431xPQnJ zeA+662ENMX/at8GTPJwc1nyVuM3G3r+Hrm5DUuSXf2MZ8nr1fmHx2tveXH5gP1PIXEh PKez33ULSVQA9Qd/qfjr1I1vgWfiwBgZt7zQjCdygdOIlAiVqg4iRA+LxUsnCe/dAt+D 2oMl+d2SnqUuf+pR47f1VanFddD3SCJaK6sr03AKXPIP5nDub0IfW8mwlO1ftwqJJkeQ ejsjQYTAbljbtR1BofffVaLYh2LE+AGFQ586UM7w7yVOJfE1Xc2dyUXvBxqsevGJOoPG myMA== X-Received: by 10.50.108.161 with SMTP id hl1mr1829078igb.101.1359654103142; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:41:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.203] (184-8-140-220.shasta.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net. [184.8.140.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa6sm7215301igb.2.2013.01.31.09.41.41 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:41:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [9front] Goodbye, MothraReferences: <20130131172100.1909d97e@vardo.ethans.dre.am> From: Matthew Veety Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A551) In-Reply-To: <20130131172100.1909d97e@vardo.ethans.dre.am> Message-Id: List-ID: <9front.9front.org> X-Bullshit: ISO-certified factory JSON over SQL hosting strategy-oriented realtime-oriented control Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:41:40 -0500 To: "9front@9front.org" <9front@9front.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) I wish I was this tactful when I dump lovers. On Jan 31, 2013, at 12:21, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > Goodbye Mothra. It's been a good run, but you really don't have what > I need. Libpanel? Please. I need real text editing, not some 40 > year old proof-of-concept that doesn't know what cursor keys are and > barely tolerates being manipulated by a mouse. >=20 > That's=E2=80=A6 I haven't even got started. It's not just text editing, y= our > whole interface doesn't know what to do with the mouse. You treat it > as if you can just take it globally and have it do whatever wherever, > but that just means you never know if I'm using a dropdown, selecting > text, or even using your scrollbar. You get all 3 mixed up, honey. > If you'd been designed in the slightest bit properly, you wouldn't get > them mixed up at all. >=20 > And, speaking of proper design, your text selection really isn't it, > Mothra. Whole-word selection might be kinda nice but you can't get > away with sticking a space onto the *beginning* of the selection every > time. And line breaks! For crying out loud, you do not insert line > breaks willy-nilly into text that was never meant to have them! This > is just not on. >=20 > And=E2=80=A6 there's even more. As if all that wasn't enough there's moth= > mode and your=E2=80=A6 your *intrusive* bar at the top. Between switching= > your bar on and off all the time and going into and out of moth mode, > I feel like I'm using Vi when I use you, Mothra, and you damn well > know how I feel about Vi. It's just a mess, the numbers clutter my > head, the list clutters the screen when its open and doesn't show > needed details when it's not, and=E2=80=A6 and why the bloody hell do you n= ot > have relative jumps? Yeah yeah all right you might say you could be > patched for that in no time, but then what about everything else! > Text and mouse issues, your basic=E2=80=A6 fundamental *design* with all t= he > clutter and the cryptic moth mode, and=E2=80=A6 no. It's just too much. >=20 > I=E2=80=A6 I like your spirit, I think, Mothra, you'll always have that, b= ut I > think you've lost your way with moth mode and besides that, how much > to you want to be patched? This is ridiculous. I'm not=E2=80=A6 I'm not e= ven > going to try to change you that much, Mothra. It would be stupid, you > wouldn't even be you at the end of it, and I'm just not going to do > that. >=20 > I'm going back to Abaco now. She has her faults, sure, and she does > need a little bit of help, but I don't have to really change her to > live with her. You and me would never have worked, Mothra. Goodbye > now.