From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16737 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2021 16:13:47 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Jul 2021 16:13:47 -0000 Received: from mail-pf1-f178.google.com ([209.85.210.178]) by 1ess; Tue Jul 13 11:37:03 -0400 2021 Received: by mail-pf1-f178.google.com with SMTP id j199so19998053pfd.7 for <9front@9front.org>; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:36:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ya3+pE5dkYNW4B2xZOxDt+nlGT/z6eLaDhwc5sG6bJw=; b=n+9JOOKKphlfIq4HC/fVJZuTJ9WUK/odZ/xcjy5JTP/uyeYV1dwfW+3aHES5gcZIWD sc9qOQjc1t/mYiNGNk0Tib/sGSuypHQjmbqDXed+tTcn1GAGXGHIBOq6/fWFLlozaO/S 4nCFLAoWVwaMlKxCgtyNZdCFkTFiKAm1ZxcdMDoSc6qYneIb+RPblfuwt+3+Y1wxqdxs 5y936uGPS1aP+5XHriZGD82m3u27eW0zjtQX37cH7BchL851Z+VwvReccCY0Jyeqqdzl guhgum0f3wLLQZUiBtoK+ggiqbrf+0a/elgIaujUJ97uQqY18EHTMNTxk7G8l86wuMCq DEOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ya3+pE5dkYNW4B2xZOxDt+nlGT/z6eLaDhwc5sG6bJw=; b=W/Z713kN6Iph2taqlA1w4gYDF82aAWp3le1TjVRDiI+4oJcFmiAhFJWMZ2ZaLKn3DE pRyU2Fv1Gb1haATlH8xwzcnPB6osaQvDB/7w5XX0EiRZVrO/ep2jVSDKMcVEOLCgsSot vsbzpHWGXVzX7rx4z7JEDO1NUvnLgTSa2rgbt7R+5SV0XB2IthaCwVZrK9AHi8Rrq+wM zMcJ13A6BXjQ0uWSalxelJP/uqQSqlhwVUst8tRvgsxH1Qh+YVYM+NC2zFhHEy+OnLGO 3DwgAvShAm6HsON3LzuDXNo//DKpA7S6EnLv9TaWSfs0aLizz5zfoDD9405F75ifj+Sm KWJg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530/JKvzVEG8aT1OKk5CpRwdCxsiQ0oQ1jt7FwpGPsaUsiKes1j1 HUFSUyfah3/sEI5p61lt0Ww1DkMdpu7hdOv1jsmkDTbD X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx+P4h+3mLEqLSstQAN+jVdcPjMS4B99/Zm/ArDOOki+CiQhtwDTiNLrgbf+U3BeNQuJ6vkO9sr8CuwMxWg7s4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:728f:b029:12b:374:c149 with SMTP id d15-20020a170902728fb029012b0374c149mr3831139pll.80.1626188978017; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:09:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8CE29EA89CBA8F74C1D4D8EEF2528473@eigenstate.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgTWlndWVsIFPDoW5jaGV6IEdhcmPDrWE=?= Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:09:26 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: structured cache shader Subject: Re: [9front] Mouse clipping patch Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk We have a problem too: there are programs which we don't want to release their grab EVER. screenlock would be pretty lame if you could just "ungrab" the mouse. I think that different programs have different needs, so maybe convention is enough? Follow it, unless it makes no sense... On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 5:07 PM hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > > no, that is never a problem as rio forwards the keyboard commands to > the relevant selected subprocess (scrollock, DEL and ESC keys for > example). > > On 7/13/21, Stuart Morrow wrote: > > On 13/07/2021, Jos=C3=A9 Miguel S=C3=A1nchez Garc=C3=ADa wrote: > >> There is none, but that's a different issue (it could be easily solved > >> if rio provided an "uncurrent" key or an alt-tab-like key. > > > > I can make the case, without appealing to personal preference, that > > keyboard-driven wm doesn't belong in Plan 9: we nest window managers. > > How do you get keyboard commands into the inner rio? > >