From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20267 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2022 23:05:15 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Aug 2022 23:05:15 -0000 Received: from mail-lf1-f53.google.com ([209.85.167.53]) by 9front; Thu Aug 18 19:04:23 -0400 2022 Received: by mail-lf1-f53.google.com with SMTP id o2so4008082lfb.1 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc; bh=Ohbtmm6ws6vGeBsUShc3x28/pVKheXxvrzhhTLCCJfU=; b=TvezqvClCfAHBRu/8GZkFl8UCyvxflFxZtsQ130EMPS5LbPap+dPBkt5bvdCIuEgf7 p5O+Cm2xkA/r9/WkSZ1PRxxUY+YWD1tE7PqDXRwGV++91Jprww7gzJ5CsAMz2IfZEfDV hQ/EkH8fXlZKTSTPPfO14m26Kxi7Bwdy4RANRUP+UnIKaxmkWQfweMlwM5DviQBpeGpP D7Ymv0nHsTYSHf7D5/MUbNDsTNG0slaN77NabLyw7u2xaESac20FoPWLekvACkbS9HqM eW+O3G3/GiPv32fr0CPh+7cx40kPP2LY/xSJt7bgoG4R3WM0OylGho81/2qjuUJtePaW tM9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=Ohbtmm6ws6vGeBsUShc3x28/pVKheXxvrzhhTLCCJfU=; b=5iIVyjkTAy1xR9BIRFCqhN5+ZTYgZXSwUYBAN+6f89YJdVJHdmLZ5qtmTD7YKXiaah NydHbcxvUvXxHdcLsgCqC4HPQJnMrmfRoc6RnjdCoEqbiRN4Ttwy/tLzp9+nNDnH6X3U 6vy8mpmkB6DeYAZrOt6TeFpSBSTda0Fv6poF8cs+MThTPg8PFu9NAk8Ksbg+tZ/wRo10 +QG7ChgNXWQNFmrwOMAVmsPYYDaPRQ+/hgzJnVV2Ciiw9S/LvVufGqv6XhcuPj1mWZBr wGgThUhTXcr4KRrKU8M2IC7HeFuZCbsS4LPGNKJrbOBqoy7/T33Ws4JPsNxrFOl2of+X tnbw== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1FxS3ys+Xtzo5/R6CaEvp1eZd3opC4BFVksj0hpZIuobe1Hkjt 3jIz24ah5/sXLd6O54nfhkQ7JBlpbMCsSQphvYz3apGa X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR4+PK8kJzys4sQTE4ln0MKWG3gmKj3iSoUu15WYh7ThaVSHpHvDY5KjqpjKsxHAVS8JZoEw/+hRpf8blpptsDE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:2348:b0:492:ba80:5144 with SMTP id p8-20020a056512234800b00492ba805144mr1449399lfu.467.1660863858380; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6504:995:b0:1dc:3a25:cb4e with HTTP; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 16:04:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96511664FCD610AAFC870728D786BA81@eigenstate.org> References: <96511664FCD610AAFC870728D786BA81@eigenstate.org> From: Stuart Morrow Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 00:04:17 +0100 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: scale-out self-signing table cloud Subject: Re: [9front] hackathon writeup Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > But this wasn't the only set of ideas that was discussed. > Lots of thought was put into the directions to go with > VMX and Unix integration, Throwing an idea out because I've never seen anyone else say it: the best possible linuxemu is Linux itself, running as User-Mode Linux, which ought to be possible with Linux syscall emulation (again, the code is in NIX), except not really because there's no ptrace and UML is centred around that. Networking for UML is PPP, which 9front already provides, and filesystem is just a directory (like linuxemu, and devfs in 9vx), so actually running the binary is the only hurdle (I would think).