From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10225 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2023 12:37:03 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Aug 2023 12:37:03 -0000 Received: from mail-ot1-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]) by 9front; Fri Aug 11 08:31:36 -0400 2023 Received: by mail-ot1-f47.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-6bd0a0a6766so1816047a34.2 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 05:31:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1691757093; x=1692361893; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=drY+IJ0xC3bXaY1rANXbqWq+RleHIJaIo560p86djFE=; b=q1U6Yoto8sFnrHSNvoYq5JvTeuUqxw/VNnV4RhCygQU1EfgQMyJWZw1SSSpQSZUQqK JGMKsYkxsAoFKhDr4pfUGjvTCGI8w5tAUfH8TsVXv3pDYm0JSd1vmvEZxolQYu0nOW7x v7V+Fyh1Do7smlQhfO5junv9Wz61WfTvGi/azQUMbx4gYi3a6C47Vt2kG2E5tOGGiJ+X 2YenhpVRvu/MjfAg+BCthHPXG1gUO8rOhiGUYapc5uDRPbvZL2rRE+nDfaNPIF4v8i0o s4fUEd1Kgc92elfdMRCwtpK3iTn+knhZd4QG0iE8RE99/OaZLuFLoCs0QU5fShF2v0vA dgYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691757093; x=1692361893; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=drY+IJ0xC3bXaY1rANXbqWq+RleHIJaIo560p86djFE=; b=dsn3rW0sFg93KOMQ2jM9PxI9Int2mslVLu+HyW+SsTOjEv+rC7XkrB98FEgLTdgzu0 AsKcvzAFx/SJQho6lOHbQ40VzUj5OF6lJqxxcnyMO/WnbooFElJNRzohyFemsYrdmFaq vPEv8qMAfL8YqEXnCoZ4vIXM4Dwrz8YdLI92frBdzqkJJoBtsg6hOztwtNUT30mt4Gt0 nujOSlTx5amBHi4AxxcC+KpVsZgMVSSItfvxNblSJ7jkqpm0nDrAjSWU1uOWMBYvaH5f 0KubFo+4R7kfzXe8DAVAY4B3IHkgaNa0hiU+AcHqop2mzPnw2yK2ItVBn6gF+MgF6HhE TB5g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy1JHvblYbtSlKfE2UIBs4PBgmK9hctxtmVjKMyfor4sGM+5En1 V2K3EfZWLlOCUP1v9e9wjDY3B2R/iMQjXAObMlcnIAps X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFz9Orhvo689gqE9rNpY+uv2dEtYrWEkt8biHgjCqhZmLsLDQJiNVoRmwJHOSp7yjaFGAD8giu+8ZYhwU7a488= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1e13:b0:6bc:f5b7:f1d with SMTP id s19-20020a0568301e1300b006bcf5b70f1dmr1646485otr.28.1691757093421; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 05:31:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:7000:bb09:b0:4fb:7927:fc1a with HTTP; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 05:31:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2fc2844e-5950-8cfc-ad08-74785d77bef5@posixcafe.org> References: <8238B8F039D4FFD7DCE93184F1E485EF@ftrv.se> <2fc2844e-5950-8cfc-ad08-74785d77bef5@posixcafe.org> From: Stuart Morrow Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:31:32 +0100 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: transactional package-aware GPU solution Subject: Re: [9front] "Touching the Artwork" strikes again Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > Hear hear. This is in response to it being laughable, "a gem", to comment on two pairs of mutually-incompatible things appearing in the same software distribution. I truly don't get why that's a hear-hear moment. > I particularly like Stuart's part about refusing to write > the code. I'm not a programmer (like the vast majority of people that ever used a Unix-like operating system), and to the extent that I _can_ be called one (is a hunt-and-peck typist "a typist"), I don't enjoy the process. And I'm not keen on touching what I think is one of the biggest programs. And quasimodal typing seems like it would be outside of what you can directly do with the libraries, kind of like if you wanted a stats(1) that draws its (massive)menu outside of its (usually small)window. > Sorry Stuart, people are not writing code for you, no matter how > much you bitch on the mailing list. I don't know how you got it in to your > head that we are here to serve you or your opinions. If you think you know > what the priorities should be, and how to best solve these problems then > just like fucking do it. Really not seeing how you got it in your head(s?) that that's in my head. I had an idea between posts(which is why it's not in the first post, or the subject line)(ditto for switching on $service) about an intellectually-satisfying design seeming to solve three known problems that don't obviously have anything to do with each other. Given that I know both how to close a window and how to exit rio, and don't have a need for directing focus of keyboard commands in a way that's elegant (because I don't use keyboard commands), I'm more interested in the idea than in having it. And now have I spend almost all of this thread dealing with either strawmen or misreadings.