From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3533 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2023 18:25:35 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Aug 2023 18:25:35 -0000 Received: from mail-yw1-f171.google.com ([209.85.128.171]) by 9front; Thu Aug 10 14:24:46 -0400 2023 Received: by mail-yw1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-58439daf39fso13990867b3.1 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:24:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1691691884; x=1692296684; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=upkBNcuYhXcbIYMzGTVpWA7Wp5c0m3N8HVnI2FfmO6E=; b=pM+60cYdSTYfwJI69fPkU0cdeEkZUgXP+/xu9Zh8bj8e/NAROlb42VomUVyN5Ly2qm +Ny1CrTYtfJCYLOMq/WDjWUOEMF0VJzsLsQlzRlkos3HUz/JY1YbogwI88fpsLl0JCSN wV6bhcZRT3GNeuKdZPKeDdbRBIL+mfebpl2VCn5ZqId4mdQKHGuY1svjNTkO3eDJ1638 3tDqwzAZh9sugfPBkEpE2Avnw9y9QAq2Co6I5YIhVckafhYWslToT3ZNRHeeyqSkd+4m fd/7XPVxi9j1HSTijLlmfKrNfzreSt8dfJTZ47I3iTRpgDwJ8PjBoj99Moi8i042dkEP 5VnQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691691884; x=1692296684; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=upkBNcuYhXcbIYMzGTVpWA7Wp5c0m3N8HVnI2FfmO6E=; b=UW+08nQvLRBIgMhNX2P9P31r4OAXYg6LfqS+SB91Sunl+WPHTZYGeoh1FEvgFC3Y9c GLs85yA8Gtu0dKAAnCs5cy1JAML/0SiGVGJ9AaAkJlbRTLpvJqLpXkYY2tfW1m0hQPFA IM7q1xbirkdVFCNeuHS7KcbVfmf32Aq8/k2WoOCA/GzwLoyW0+onNIIs0hKdF6a0LUVX ZXYTT73v/lLcidj1BRagAFhhnhMUjgmwOkAKTIu/c/1LKEwQCAQCJxKTqzUznqfNWzVb CNo+Qedprvnip3ZpiiQ3ZjkFKgkVTgapIDz60biNCAB0hR1GQPlgeOqR8obH8t9XAUXe XYKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw1rMjTx/cwkDFIb8DWKoW8LTo7burJRWC6c/p+FgHqx6+MBc8P z88XNstaPVLKt32X9ElybopK8bz0jbxKvBEZnSxNxLHL X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEKoVoZT+mkWJaSyrgJRu5DJsp0iMK/5R19f6hEjeh29AhWUgQ9qbByYYEn+jY148zF72IRLl6FhNAJXIwUX3w= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:f406:0:b0:586:9e0a:e3c4 with SMTP id d6-20020a0df406000000b005869e0ae3c4mr3627004ywf.30.1691691884134; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:24:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:7000:5316:b0:4fb:7927:fc1a with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:24:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stuart Morrow Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 19:24:43 +0100 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: strategy table scripting controller Subject: Re: [9front] "Touching the Artwork" strikes again Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > We have discussions on #cat-v and on grid. Or, in this case, on the list. > But no, better speculate elsewhere (reddit, discord, whatever) > then complain about artwork touching here, on the ML. I'm "speculating" on the list, although I don't know why you'd say speculating when all the following are just facts. Exit sounds like it could mean to close, plus it's easier to find in the menu than Delete is. The button 3 menu always appears, and can only appear, in the rio that has focus, so keyboard stuff that only works while that menu is up will always go to the right rio. Is this not the biggest reason why keyboard controls (desired by 9front types) have always been kept out of rio? Exit is something nobody wants unless they're advanced enough to know about hidden menu commands.