From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21247 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2023 11:38:41 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Aug 2023 11:38:41 -0000 Received: from mail-yb1-f169.google.com ([209.85.219.169]) by 9front; Thu Aug 10 07:35:04 -0400 2023 Received: by mail-yb1-f169.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-bc379e4c1cbso723921276.2 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:35:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1691667302; x=1692272102; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9mzNX+m6S+MZlXlyxIoQSp5YWlpuQkN9W/L5PFg7ntM=; b=FYIJ3THJSFmQUXtEOGvGgziQd+XHC5ldpaUFueEoWIAkiLKiF3yEMdC11e36CzsbRH Z9AeL9oZULfyajeujTaIgx3AveRpbEsK5g+tCK+X99Mhi2WejZiPJ2QvxMkqnQlgTL2L bzBZLekWhVIWMkzouX2EilnnnHPhn/tOPBmWe29/ush19P6s7czHPqQW6zSQQblCROld 9mE1oyX5fixPtSF/I5sBv1Y2+P5ANzRQR0rCvLXLrb0BzYHIzAFvxvfd2v08aP7QWl4d gAJNkozbyu6nl3Pk9Vpv+2o0lEvKAQQtZo3HKiLw/EvQZKMjdNxh887+dPamylcGc1gY 1I6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691667302; x=1692272102; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9mzNX+m6S+MZlXlyxIoQSp5YWlpuQkN9W/L5PFg7ntM=; b=gZ/f92AsZ+NArDXjS52r3W5+G7ZLEg8ChFlX+tjboHBK8WXwMVlikrXstjU7poZag9 qD9Jau8sZWEUIShKdFDioK5wKc+RTliYoNGHL86HK0NdVQvHCugTWzZ62G0PrDNeGt3m 09opfH1wxCN1XZ0yQWG3Ixx+D8dhpHzk9W4IRKNelGASA+f4pUSnM1/Z10Ps8XoWF9Ao 7fbiWAqKTbnblVZejyJQwIML+7GvIPc/LDtvelKtjfnPVAiKZ8ig+Zf/+deC2+rtf1R5 Ps8OUCyEHXPBbcDFuDgsZ02cmS6fSrOxp7gXjhuBde9E8YLuKNrIBQmP345yF7LgyMC7 7AMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxUqB1uouo3dzGSjLqOqh6t5F2xz+4XqU2iQOhXc5VlPKmVC/Ox Hu68MqHQQJecl+ND4hgMokmYd2FLBXos6147HOg+l217 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGD/opORMMsyemaf0kn3zG8uas4mdC/LQ8rcHTW5c29qAMf85Gee/fIWkj6FRGEXYQotFOFvU6Cs41AmEuOT7c= X-Received: by 2002:a25:dc43:0:b0:d07:1bdb:7780 with SMTP id y64-20020a25dc43000000b00d071bdb7780mr2214878ybe.60.1691667302287; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:35:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:7000:5316:b0:4fb:7927:fc1a with HTTP; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:35:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2026680B1A1F5AB41AD379CE0C6D9B3E@ftrv.se> From: Stuart Morrow Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 12:35:01 +0100 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: encrypted singleton extension Subject: Re: [9front] "Touching the Artwork" strikes again Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > It just showed that during the presentation, the presenter mis-clicked > 'Exit' and had to re-start his drawterm. I recall there was some > discussion around this added menu item and if it should have a > confirmation akin to what is done with mothra's 'exit' menu item: > another click to confirm. The discussion should have been should it be enabled at all. I'm pretty against keyboard control in window management in particular, triply so on Plan 9, but keybindings could actually be tolerated if they were available only while the window management menu is quasimodally held open with button 3. It's better than the nested GNU Screen way of controlling where commands go. And Exit is neither really "window management" anyway nor something anyone is actually missing if it's undiscoverable without a man page read. And q to quit is a Plan 9 standard already. Also, if checking for /env/wsys is too much magic (this was the real reason Exit was enabled - not that anyone actually *uses* it in the parent rio) you could check for service=cpu instead and get practically the same result.