From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30341 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2022 02:42:02 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Nov 2022 02:42:02 -0000 Received: from mail-yw1-f171.google.com ([209.85.128.171]) by 9front; Tue Nov 29 21:38:43 -0500 2022 Received: by mail-yw1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-3bf4ade3364so107861127b3.3 for <9front@9front.org>; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 18:38:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sTvYrzrp9Isfg/QlH+LXrx7UzInR1sRgKRWi+bsmu3U=; b=hMDaM6+eCa0g26i7Va3DlNlwdb5O1hb3YgtMRKSvMV4Jg/YkOCPW3WAdgKFsk13/6E omlPEPdZiiHWOv7r9wbwKUw9/c63hUjo5dinU4wbhWs/4Vb1albroryzDrVGml3Wty8r aDnvYVMDFiA2pxicFlztIUfwqTPtDWAspXQqzdyK63arWoGF2yJULU3/ibodtJUEiKEP nU4eSksNeZaF9LrDflncPn2GyuzpRLvMUFZlscP6Znhnulbn18KsuRhlz7LxNFIjNEoB pZ8lH50BX4uCvUVmEtJ6Il9EYjOaBoovw3spR2Yy0fYfgJVQ6CLudiV5+RCFhlGpWgFb ayYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sTvYrzrp9Isfg/QlH+LXrx7UzInR1sRgKRWi+bsmu3U=; b=tLAMn+REJcMLChb5qw/U9PRPIByVaR9NM/TyeH+d6gm9p1Ni9hwmT+4OdHNuM1B35V ZaaCpGa9xK3EQ/8ipUJ3kyjw0fNPJLBDsFhooETETVlpEBkutWzdvzjI3CoCvrdOI35M jK0FKh06FtM5rRbvR0k575p/qS9lUWoFaNBwAqVWdyTkNR5pg5mqYdvC8YpSETsveDYk MZ0YmKmU4mIWp8kSYPEV3rc3Mx5h63ul78WhsVSrJBM8bt4FSlBvi8qtjgQ2oyc/Xnpv eOBVLx5W5SF92XZKm2ZG7EGwZ37oXPizYSolK+/nd3WjkO/ev9ijui5nKEgMs/kkzkp7 VPIw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pk9/ivUXmu0w3XXkENrn5xPGrFlJD3YMA9kyFdQmo32RMujvnjf hLN7opl7ZlAQKyZoKkCNZAy2FbDt9qn41LAwBQn4lXGh X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6A21OtRMOrnnVf3kxchNAVH6gEoFxV+2FFC9PwsKztPmV82silhhbzfHJy8ips+Pn0lCCgBup+oEI9td/rQSc= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:dbc9:0:b0:3b2:ce3b:eae1 with SMTP id d192-20020a0ddbc9000000b003b2ce3beae1mr28919040ywe.4.1669775916470; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 18:38:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:7000:84c5:b0:3d4:b995:3331 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 18:38:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <51022878-2dcf-42be-9990-60f2d1475ce5@sirjofri.de> <0df780bc-37c8-4f01-8c40-aa50e83d0573@sirjofri.de> From: Stuart Morrow Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 02:38:35 +0000 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: template CMS STM interface Subject: Re: [9front] 9front on the Allwinner A64 Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk On 29/11/2022, sirjofri wrote: > I want the system to be so Plan 9-ey that you can feel Plan 9 each time > you use it. I want the system to be fun in a way that you _want_ to use > it. I want the system to be productive so that you _can_ use it. And > finally (maybe not finally) I want the system so that you can use it > within your bigger context of a Plan 9 grid You want "a handset that's actually a computer". I think we all did, and then smartphones actually came out as something that normies like and the rest of us grumble over.