From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12841 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2021 14:45:37 -0000 Received: from 4ess.inri.net (216.126.196.42) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Nov 2021 14:45:37 -0000 Received: from mail-ed1-f41.google.com ([209.85.208.41]) by 4ess; Tue Nov 30 09:29:49 -0500 2021 Received: by mail-ed1-f41.google.com with SMTP id y13so87472014edd.13 for <9front@9front.org>; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 06:29:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=D/FSy7H6zUVbkbYg/eXqunlTprb4jwKa34YDlye+LQY=; b=VuTEKurCXbKuWzYdZYSaTYcvtGduXgtWTwVruj1OehhG3t0h++4Dk/UpN4XP6KnRkK Ru91PiO3W8ohAdwa1AEM2MMkx5drdnY1N7jWV85C+sYCbDIDUnNPaNs3spgu1KxzZQXT NALtnhEpATAV2JMX0mE5eswTw26t3QAXIPgdSrc2egwopJMpHiiLz1ZEpXLlZu0xJ2Ua RCE78U9UxfM52miocWrI274I3KM0tDmg938/1/d51OJidH/gcNVH7tGSuvqaDmqWrsAX XA9Xi3aj9AMEW/QNeF6nScRgl0m1DOsbAPI0BQFg/5++tX5S0F+9JAAoQxaCvpvPJOTZ ge4w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=D/FSy7H6zUVbkbYg/eXqunlTprb4jwKa34YDlye+LQY=; b=YzciZxCkXT4kTkRv8f5aNmudOARwKtxCFNEAofKvdr7aGEfGPGOvO8p6mdNxjcZkiz 8Oy6dzX/+ul754/X5ryLso4NO0UsR0s7NWx6pYoWxpwfgQFavbi1TEEeBYY6ztQ6Bhaq EDSZ0OVlQAO4xEVGCf4lOaiDrDwSRUxvEgOvx2fM5HPq+J9cfZM1mAWy0rkX9+EAsb6X k0EYwBr61hDpEUtB1KRxxBo2axvZu5hDSmotlj0hpb2M1bv5IjDgX0brTjaw120gAXis Tb867Ew1+HPp9TEZkV6eBqugX7Iom9pQmhzu2FoW1gryaCO01nBkP2v5DxeTeED3lG4L yDeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530eOoPvuCEswWOjtsSFw+onVtAcYseJnaSaBkZocfAKrW0ZjcDw NZ1BDZczXR3Wbgeg5oUBpe4SaGrnreX74tT+p1jU+M+rrDk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx5AjtAfzQDKWDod2reT+f4mdcs4pKkY9jThnHpFq12bW/5QfvLzP3ve2VO2hcCrAeTvpVixYLqfYX9K2WEOqM= X-Received: by 2002:a50:fd16:: with SMTP id i22mr83037573eds.224.1638282566196; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 06:29:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Lucas Francesco Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 11:29:10 -0300 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: self-healing content-driven-based method-scale package Subject: Re: [9front] Containers Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk oops, i meant spawngrid, not plan9ants. On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 11:28, Lucas Francesco wrote: > > The best container that can exist is called a process with its own > namespace and place to write/exist. If you really any form/gimmick of > "contenarization" (the linux-grade thing, with a snapshot of the whole > container and importing/exporting between machines thing) I think you > should checkout how plan9ants was setup on top of 9front (but with > venti-backed fossil rootscores ) to give on-demand isolated cpu > servers with its own root on a specific namespace (it was all on the > same kernel, not virtualized, but different /root and enviroment for > each user) > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 04:27, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:38:58PM -0500, Jubal Biggs wrote: > > > Hey, general question; has anyone been able to set up a containerized > > > service (Docker or otherwise) on Plan9? I guess it requires the Linux > > > kernel, which would not be optimal to run on top of a Plan9 environment, > > > but that sort of virtualization would open up a whole universe of > > > possibilities. > > > > Plan 9 doesn't need containerization; we have user-controllable > > namespaces, which is the feature that Linux container tools poorly > > imitate. We do have some virtualization software, if you want to > > artificially cripple your environment and then inadequately reconstruct > > the features you left behind by booting a Linux kernel. > > > > khm