From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wm1-f45.google.com ([209.85.128.45]) by ewsd; Thu Feb 6 09:42:58 EST 2020 Received: by mail-wm1-f45.google.com with SMTP id b17so292391wmb.0 for <9front@9front.org>; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 06:42:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Rt3OMv4wmt0cpZKZOjW5Ojvx0BNR8WhY2bsi4weqnr0=; b=DWrOkKLBLpPvknuovzEY/Y2OVjcXJ7c5DtI/HXTyGb0fNYYAZq7kfJhJUXICJkV7J3 hctrA2QI41oBGEIWFE3OyJVk69plRuHOHCCQlHFW7v5rKFonWILu9seqChZzmli76mDI jBjRieySoMEGoUzL04lcfkVCSyQNzC8HkDDDcJ8wdNi4dIu2xwoa1UEOvNNTN58SbueS xWuCaMQBbndDWtg0xRzp6NiujgQ1rXarD4QueCXmwwMiKWUl1CHtSUh3WKkmDoZpj7NA hlagGGekvZKovd8B0AySVrlOCAGHDt5Y6TtgUe1c0WsU0ArKH0QE7Hp9p5JckgJiogPR lVZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Rt3OMv4wmt0cpZKZOjW5Ojvx0BNR8WhY2bsi4weqnr0=; b=pXwuULIYOn4JbSJkcjbRungNngTOvXfZpdAhUf1zr5/qM4hm4AMz4lMBngEmjuBCvs BtdzVn1k1K1Rk/Jq3DUih8R4iiy9UZOWAPEeeVupyIz7vIFoMj3tcRJoVCG2WbD7rSHE 7eNkYu5joWAs4AH5/QDh6hSk8ewg93hs47Q7+8EXKVd3OWjsGtPS41xRMzPJq3jY4DYz qTQ4XKJNwR5SjGblhAWx5W7Vi63y206xhPrU2gPS74nFLcjaqngFYYo9E86FymPeWUXR LZVESL64ztB/hFswjwu++9abVjkJR3pON18GT0L54Do5fCZc/bMAFfBx+qQZZyZsEXYs 3Pkg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWzrPnVs3cvzJrDC3/HZW/lZG1unEOb+zqQWzKtvLuOauksECvC gNbbmvuGT0leHW2jMiicqz/WYEDYNotw9SjbAs77GA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwEQ0pJvnpWBQpXJxG/JqxFvkAShCq+FLetrtrUrSaNY2Ty4pOq5ZB8ppofyQun0PbNp/4nwPXTct0lTTXmUpE= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cae2:: with SMTP id t2mr5021196wml.180.1581000174352; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 06:42:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a5d:438b:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:42:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <2BD7E22B46E161C63AB94CC9F9EDFA4E@hera.eonet.ne.jp> <3611CE38-6E0B-49B5-80FF-B65A0955954E@sdf.org> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 14:42:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] Netsurf 3.9 for Plan 9 (work in progress) To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: flexible package proxy polling framework @steve: i used to run a caching proxy for all web clients in my network, back when there were still multiple web browser vendors and the majority of websites (barring the ones where you log in with user/pass) still supported plain unencrypted access by default. it was great. ad blocking and caching could be done on a beefy central machine and everybody around would benefit from it. nowadays it has become completely unusable. everything is encrypted anyway, and even when i check the way that chrome uses web site ressources it seems that the web servers are always so slow anyway with providing the main content (which always is small though) that the overhead of downloading all the other content over and over again isn't so important any more. my bandwidth is big. i'm mainly bottlenecked by the javascripts in the browser, some sluggish interaction with sliding and fading video windows that want to evade my mouse pointer, or the web server's very slow processing times. even closing tabs nowadays on a modern computer takes longer than turning off windows98 safely. that's why i ask: why not leave away caching? did you do any real tests? :)