From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3998 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2021 13:33:58 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Mar 2021 13:33:58 -0000 Received: from mail-ej1-f42.google.com ([209.85.218.42]) by 1ess; Mon Mar 8 08:28:23 -0500 2021 Received: by mail-ej1-f42.google.com with SMTP id dx17so20397827ejb.2 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 05:28:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=4Bu4M54mBcr0CCC20yiZ8QDVbujiA7JeIdkUKuirhi0=; b=fG93NS9ayAo60S1DSUftVEhzpgsZEjmdt6WCzuTkKVNYsb02oOyySPfY3C857L9LdO 7al3n6LcCiZxgabKmBBV5A3tN40nNFvFpOzrfNHeec3g7TlGd5No5YTs54y9UBDZ26/x Ywl3sUTVQ7AcLW9PQuXBi2uABIkJJ9X3GranR2jserxc4F7GXDFjuERuSso3HaP0vVPH VY4n/HtvorYfF3WE/kT+Ns8BkNfTD2Hks7bhW35rMKCKdJk+TXF9ngA8o6lAjVlHuaMB haR4E6rB+0OQeJoIonARQ0SJybQfVKutOS11eDGaHGjs7csNsEdgQRPSUU2VQ+Iss2g8 vo/A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=4Bu4M54mBcr0CCC20yiZ8QDVbujiA7JeIdkUKuirhi0=; b=o++nm8JvEU8a/6W8ao8I7w381D0O2plKnyY5XlZvFnb6MA2vpE9SMeMBVbS/JqA4IY z1TTh24br66XKDv3gUsZ8CIRgvyDO0nYuItBjM/n9tDFDdPx2rNdhoWiHvqesj4kayx1 6BPzLe22oHLvGtcXj2fF4TYDH3cXillJ48o+xPSLZenYaXOdQBw4pmXyykChyQTnpFB2 TNSQAWc3Eoq1dUkengPU5YHdGSiSrQDLd8tsP6zEUrfpzPxGZrWLi6pOwwyoqYj7YWQx bzK6hBWtQJb0pR28VgiK8Bz0iXLgnwtaIroUj6KeItUR88Xm4FUta2PAWk0h0AOTvAou vftA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532hgK7AxS8CugoUdpQ9kAjgRXyN3fK906BBaXirFijVyTPDXEgU XPTlPqY0nk9YA02BLJLa1Nm6gG7yAsVkxf6RgRF4YtuvJZI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy8lRj8XBdLIutWAdphAH49KMtnXHACxuf2wZk5XaXii6HKNm1njd8tpb693RCB2hvtTX7zi1XqJR/XFKBvNQs= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:94d4:: with SMTP id dn20mr15068131ejc.397.1615210094507; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 05:28:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:906:4486:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Mar 2021 05:28:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <_iAR0uGb9YWEeNW0Sa8A1mLwPsEi7yVEV5svbUpqWX35oRBbAgT2w2ImQSq_S7hmO1PjdwNlFQ0_3vOjnP7TSgWoVkSAEKm0rviz26TdsQ0=@protonmail.com> References: <5B363A6921AF13A6394AA2B6B05DB843@gmail.com> <_iAR0uGb9YWEeNW0Sa8A1mLwPsEi7yVEV5svbUpqWX35oRBbAgT2w2ImQSq_S7hmO1PjdwNlFQ0_3vOjnP7TSgWoVkSAEKm0rviz26TdsQ0=@protonmail.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 14:28:13 +0100 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: encrypted leveraged deep-learning general-purpose controller Subject: Re: [9front] distproto: include the files in /lib/firmware/* Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk yes and yes. in terms of being hunted down by powerful rich assholes with money and lawyers, we're obviously at the mercy of our lack of relevance. that's the only thing that protects us. and perhaps common decency (i can never be sure about it but i can hope). it doesn't matter whether it seems like a modification to YOU. somebody with enough money can make any court believe that looking wrongly at the binary is already a violation of somebody's unalienable human right or similar bullshit. On 3/8/21, kemal wrote: >> the reason i'd want it all built in is bec. then you can netboot over >> wifi without needing an installation. > > Do you mean into to the kernel? Well, that can be a good reason. > > Also just realised, is merging the fw in to the kernel is legal? > License gives you permission to **just** redistribute and use, > I don't know if building it into the kernel can be count as > "modification". >