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From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
To: 9front@9front.org
Subject: Re: [9front] Change of Hashsize in acid (slow startup on netsurf)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:23:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFSF3XMGSQNQpK0xzTTrTzhgRfmt1nVQ0ExDmvXvmKSsDZXXmA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9514DC52-9435-44DB-B8B3-2B66609D1318@stanleylieber.com>

i thought gmail would *first* insert a Received: header before they
add their other stupid shit. thanks for clarifying this is actually
coming from them and not from you, sorry for my confusion

On 1/6/21, Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> wrote:
> On January 6, 2021 4:07:38 AM EST, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>well it's all new to me, too.
>>
>>dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com
>>
>>this line, seems to suggest that gmail.com has to go into quarantine
>>because of a dmarc subdomain policy. but no gmail subdomain is used so
>>it shouldn't apply. it feels like your mail server is incorrectly
>>looking at sp=.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/6/21, Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> wrote:
>>> On January 5, 2021 5:39:05 PM EST, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>i mean, somehow the 9front mailing list software seems to be
>>>>complaining about gmail...
>>>>
>>>>On 1/5/21, Stanley Lieber <sl@stanleylieber.com> wrote:
>>>>> On January 5, 2021 4:10:19 PM EST, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>i did not manage to quote the relevant part:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>>>>>>       dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@gmail.com
>>>>>>header.s=20161025 header.b=frcOH6pW;
>>>>>>       spf=pass (google.com: domain of 9front-bounces@1ess.inri.net
>>>>>>designates 216.126.196.35 as permitted sender)
>>>>>>smtp.mailfrom=9front-bounces@1ess.inri.net;
>>>>>>       dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE)
>>>>>> header.from=gmail.com
>>>>>>Received: from mail-vk1-f180.google.com ([209.85.221.180]) by 1ess;
>>>>>> Tue
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the old server, ewsd seems to have done the same, but somehow gmail
>>>>>>didn't take it serious (perhaps people have trained gmail well enough
>>>>>>by manually pressing NOT SPAM).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 1/5/21, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> the 9front mailing list seems to be making a weird subdomain
>>>>>>> quarantine decision:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>>>>>>>        dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@gmail.com
>>>>>>> header.s=20161025 header.b=frcOH6pW;
>>>>>>>        spf=pass (google.com: domain of 9front-bounces@1ess.inri.net
>>>>>>> designates 216.126.196.35 as permitted sender)
>>>>>>> smtp.mailfrom=9front-bounces@1ess.inri.net;
>>>>>>>        dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE)
>>>>>>> header.from=gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but the from header does not specify a subdomine, so quarantine
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> apply
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Jonas Amoson <jonas.amoson@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 14:10:09 +0200
>>>>>>> Subject: [9front] Change of Hashsize in acid (slow startup on
>>>>>>> netsurf)
>>>>>>> To: 9front@9front.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is slow to debug netsurf with acid, as it takes a long time to
>>>>>>> load
>>>>>>> all the symbols from the binary. It is the process of checking if a
>>>>>>> symbol has been encountered before, the function unique(), that
>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>> the loading slow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Changing Hashsize from 128 to 32768 in acid takes down the loading
>>>>>>> time from 4 minutes to 8 seconds for me (45 times faster). Philippe
>>>>>>> reported a similar speed increase (30x from 15 min to 30 sec).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if it is desirable to change the hashsize in the 9front
>>>>>>> repo, as it probably is only netsurf that has so many symbols to
>>>>>>> load,
>>>>>>> that it matters. But it might be that it doesn't harm anything
>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Jonas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i failed to get the ptr record updated until earlier today. hopefully
>>>>> gmail
>>>>> will stop complaining once it propagates.
>>>>>
>>>>> sl
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> you'll have to walk me through that. all i see is google demanding to
>>> see
>>> our papers.
>>>
>>> sl
>>>
>>
>
> i don't understand. i don't think my server is writing that line at all.
> there is no mention of dmarc or quarantine in the ups source. the stuff
> you're quoting seems to be coming from google. what am i missing here?
>
> sl
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-06 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-05 12:10 Jonas Amoson
2021-01-05 21:03 ` Fwd: " hiro
2021-01-05 21:10   ` hiro
2021-01-05 22:16     ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-05 22:39       ` hiro
2021-01-05 23:01         ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-06  9:07           ` hiro
2021-01-06 15:23             ` Stanley Lieber
2021-01-06 16:23               ` hiro [this message]
2021-01-05 21:59 ` ori

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