From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16923 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2021 21:55:11 -0000 Received: from 1ess.inri.net (216.126.196.35) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Feb 2021 21:55:11 -0000 Received: from mail-ej1-f54.google.com ([209.85.218.54]) by 1ess; Sat Feb 6 10:18:32 -0500 2021 Received: by mail-ej1-f54.google.com with SMTP id y9so17667996ejp.10 for <9front@9front.org>; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 07:18:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ob6st7V8gaB/QMKa6XdJR7BD0rPdHptPyFuwW8an9wQ=; b=BPK+X1cirHVgsvFnMncjuNWtR1L5KwwX/hGoTz6yBSjJEKRX+zqmhdUDm4h0cjhOrs CBnFV+L2VLbBtXw2sTY69/DYx7TKIWx3Ks432IyifmOKwNXefyt7qq5COg648ZVPzuYP iK3TIoIC5YLZKfUifoojvSYhbMKoB17ysqktjh+JNhLtTrvSkNYX30U7G200tsMFja2N hD1dbyy24IVpCwFfZkXSL17EbrsIgQJ/kNH+w22N+wkWq8K9cUBmv//S+mp0WxHgXED2 55UifchMklB5pZ1t+4qRNx6zvh96ml6/Xj5OvXo/2j+T1w+KZ+mzfYgZVFhJB+1haFsC LiBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Ob6st7V8gaB/QMKa6XdJR7BD0rPdHptPyFuwW8an9wQ=; b=psDZsl2fdjOMnkjXRmIk9MSvTRpRJ6DQAlJXH9xy1px7soAVAEGa4L7iao8yxSucix T9d7j2EHU3AYDG77A0U2eet10s/6Zfxr0mUz+vp21UgYlP9QRPrKBOmiqAKlMqr//dSc 1loIxR2nSLdSIVtYE1J6PlampwZXjEx1SLOvTbRpOBGfzOL/42ErNUYchqlPY0Sj4TwE UkvWjutS26qpPtR3zGBSHHbi9ux38R2+UqTvH4Ivx5NRojqBPv4Uzve3b4N02W7QT4LU YEDWaCsu1xdKDfhTJLlHzib3iEGBw0NogQ+zYsnTwRyzwAB7BQmWP8FE4sAo1s4VELnf jNjw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530GttgV9Zuj9lUUGr74f0LQEUfHYC9la2jtvdXdLd5CXGAjIo0Q mirYvSu53HVYdTUJYCUUNLiX83KlQDF+m2CMHfbWG+traTg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwv+WnJCY9mtlyi1jw+AiCkgmCtM6VbRAB2EkWqn4PmGN0HmyAseqeouuTTcs5uBSs0HkGTOVMP2TsIzJy8GZY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:259a:: with SMTP id m26mr9331256ejb.399.1612624703517; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 07:18:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:906:3957:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 07:18:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 16:18:22 +0100 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: overflow-preventing extension core engine-based scripting-scale locator Subject: Re: [9front] maildir history Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk which part of the mail chapter exactly? i grepped for maildir also, couldnt find it. neither could i find any mention of mbox. On 2/6/21, Stanley Lieber wrote: > On February 6, 2021 9:15:26 AM EST, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: >>9front upas is all based on erik's nupas code. >> >>afterwards it got modified a lot, so much that it might be a rewrite >>would have been faster. >> >>steve: not sure i get your specific question: are you asking if mdir >>is better than mbox? >>if yes, then i would agree that without more tooling around it, >>without indexes around it, our mdir format is still not a very >>accessible mail archive, but if you make your own indexes and some >>tooling i think it's much easier based on mdir than on mbox where you >>would mostly need to do byte-wise seek offsets as opposed to >>file-granular read operations when you want to access a mail. >> > > read the mail chapter in UNIX-HATERS, and read about why maildir was > created. all of these problems are as old as e-mail. > > sl >