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From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 02:12:46 +0100
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Subject: Re: [9front] user none: cwfs vs hjfs
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i can't even do chgrp none file, -- not in group

On 1/20/21, Silas McCroskey <inkswinc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:05 PM hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> i was under the impression that cwfs, like hjfs, wrongly allows
>> access. do notice that the cat in my example succeeds and prints date.
>> it shouldn't IMO.
>
> That behavior is correct. None has read access because the file is
> world-readable. There's nothing wrong in your example.
>
> - sam-d
>