From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-ej1-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]) by ewsd; Mon Sep 21 13:16:49 EDT 2020 Received: by mail-ej1-f44.google.com with SMTP id e23so18853417eja.3 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7KzYbkSa3PnavRURuHQzC3B0J/AsxUgTKvy7OWbZIiE=; b=BMxByUNwOZMauCyjdq8qAQKb1F5IFeqniaSfZXszYEjLldYNKYb6M++pzw6JH/FmkY q6a5biRZJEaALftjBS7XM61rN4ZESbnUtoFM0WBtNkc7RBRI32LWVBmfiSJ9UqicGU/X dqjEAKA3NRHyunndh3XgUWq/N5MIzFvXsKSukQGFhWuovBJv0tW/I6qN8TKawO34tYCk EjuEPZI9l6bKjR7Hz95tEg6LtFcFs5Ea5RTsA14yflHB16lhONOANmFUtg6+f2jgH0eb lXbDvhmUbvViuvp9keP6jlwsyb+QldPuViG4tNqQ1SmjPO7VxxuD+mf60O5RVAJrhkKm viuA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7KzYbkSa3PnavRURuHQzC3B0J/AsxUgTKvy7OWbZIiE=; b=b3OMDQCC/sdTMPMAYR0M0lqXS6gQd9tImvFATw1FjArmnKHPlHXiE6oQcSSTNLO64H gaaU/CZradXqbW9vyEvumNTKzcEhIJuTlpZwqPhXKs6ywwftZSPONx7hrLM7XuXnf4A9 KWBJu06bo0bBiSkkFfCbxGZ/XZiJHWn9/3OWwYgDv86Eb6XTO0Exhu9MbbMlHQ22P61z 2uWWoTU8L3XOBUmADrnuKTlc/Lv9it/L8cq2UVoo71+CZTmdv0crus2+UPLDj9gtVTvY K2lkUYSmEnq7y/qEYOUMo0bXVV9wwm1EePwfG3zQY7JNdB4VwboaKuD8WnF5r1ZH6pfr 9S7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532r7W5M8d3YszjR7H30NYFmY8VVyAmPo8IyPOzhuSYwdzH8V88Y 01XV7qLqXmpR5Q01eMDeptSQ3wfYj6s8pDJMXbBQtDfd X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx/Oa/f56/vD3pnvikKxbS+9AtWPNkho6Xb8E2g6Qjp5tW3LgFH6q3p+JdBUuT+Vqk+2GHckPRlxmOwBkTjETU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6805:: with SMTP id k5mr426825ejr.397.1600708599546; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:906:29c2:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1E3083B627E4EDD1DF08AA61E95E4DA2@a-b.xyz> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:16:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] test To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: self-healing pipelining deep-learning manager this example has cleared up for me why gmail does such stupidity, sadly they were misleading and claimed the spam classification was due to "similar to other spam". i can confirm that most of the incorrectly classified spam messages i get in gmail seem to have dmarc not set to none. i checked a few exemplary senders, one of which being a web forum with quite a few messages every day. gmail itself also has it's dmarc set to none. so while gmail wants to force you to use dmarc (unverified, somebody claimed that on irc once) they don't seem to think anybody should have to act upon it in any way ;)