From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com ([209.85.128.47]) by ewsd; Mon Jul 20 11:32:23 EDT 2020 Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id 17so25589753wmo.1 for <9front@9front.org>; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Msd5RYJx2JqHLBPEF+Tt3GTt3uB+Nkzrrd6a/HFVBLA=; b=CCxFYhigCFGMgU+pMMfGjVCx3Tnc6/ZtrqPP2uL7HKawI5DBPrnIcreuMpvYIFAbK/ zvTNio23eLQrwKPhbIewpjrmBY5dua+IQEsFdQHLgbioMUnEhMu1gGBDaj7dlAJaSJ83 asTIt/2/9bO1XvbodOk6yHI+pI4DcWvd95jeo4n7oLBBeaEignPhH8oMYVHJ5f4exHH/ Bg6ZREDW0VYbv1y/DcH65WNU8YUEzDYKMw+Iqc0AnO259HfZ2nOVm7zw3l30glaxkhy8 kOlIOLFF7TYo6U1/kEPPWty7zVZvKeXGBaTHYKSGWqPdpm6OdUMtQGPBko1uKJRNGALC FP+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Msd5RYJx2JqHLBPEF+Tt3GTt3uB+Nkzrrd6a/HFVBLA=; b=bbNihrMAQungfVacGX3liqmEjZTO49Py8+aHl9WcDWAcnGamUsslJnseUdzhQ9dALT UBY6RiENhdb2p1dtMdXvkdSm28j9QB35kcXRDCqUjj2GsN43UaWuptu4xZzNlyeDmAzO 4Op0FTZj3mhxhZ23duS2frRKl6cSS/jUNMGpE3xJuLm2VsUiAKBTv8YDch38/nUX8HZ0 8I/zPUw/IfXUW5ahEWF5WLPXoWHFn1t+HOg+eulgMJ26PL40GA4WOnuI8l2QvrfkvBIE /0ZcQtHv2Pju1/HfKxcDJZ/8MV5JRTIHTSubm6q+x1dB19c2ZwK3H+S3MqIY0T528i9t D/Eg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532vioky0wDRHgrg0nssBb/qS9JQfXlbHE7SfpbLPrYCzN1pvXCm UnkUslxGXnWYm+o3yJoOIFma5rKuNU9oKtB5g73pfQOW X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwErrWhqAuh/6QtTllrs++z9cDdT0pc5N00e8w0S4NaHM8yob6Ew+h8kiIRBJDRW3k293GYIPPdeow3o90CtS8= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:303:: with SMTP id 3mr22758232wmd.180.1595259138371; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:32:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:adf:fd51:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:32:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20200720150501.GA1831@polynum.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:32:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9front] patch smtp: ignore unrecognized certificates To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: AJAX dependency general-purpose locator > a problem everyone else seems to have solved. you call that solved?! i think it's the opposite, as it makes it worse giving people false sense of security. On 7/20/20, ori@eigenstate.org wrote: >> The problem is that if there is a chain, you need to trust the root you >> finally end with. So whether this is a volunteers based C.A. or a >> professional paying one. > > Yes -- it'd mean distributing the usual set of trusted root certs > with the OS. Probably lifting /etc/ssl/cert.pem from a Unix box. > > It also sucks, but it's a problem everyone else seems to have solved. > >