From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15297 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2023 14:47:26 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Aug 2023 14:47:26 -0000 Received: from mail-oo1-f49.google.com ([209.85.161.49]) by 9front; Fri Aug 11 10:41:12 -0400 2023 Received: by mail-oo1-f49.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-56d67c5e87cso326857eaf.0 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:41:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1691764869; x=1692369669; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=5wYELzQS+iCbFeue1YRyeolPqVMJntUdI0XdX09zddU=; b=OzC1EondgVTO6MqpT0Bu0FJtJsC9qu4UoffvN8kgzqG93EpO0Ag2LIbQb8GwTeEfVm UuomV7JlkAEW0idAkwPpaVDZPb3Cn1QiiJV2N4wY2k7Xt2/W3l+1x8RW1B2auKVQMcOs SYoi78BUhcIeO6qtc9WS87L0dOhsJFfckw7F9arrQ3KSC7BmWkCQ8JuITmVamkEyPdCb PabTHidUcmp6KmfjIXunkpD7gDWIXvjWu4df4szu9h1JaCqb34ma6xvQPyOQHrRcad4M xOaGeIgzGhX+8O/Rn2fyhNk1DmZKEV7n/4JVbD+G20oq1Nssyl5l3OlGYFnYH60s14qE RrAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1691764869; x=1692369669; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=5wYELzQS+iCbFeue1YRyeolPqVMJntUdI0XdX09zddU=; b=eXsifvU9yUSQAlA0GyDuodtNc8hPegmRk8EXB4zg/eI+/NvUZNW6GjKUwQPo+vI/bT CFNzwpNZy9HcHR8mvocM0ODPThyx2mmWlF1KHYcGDV0xeb+xLc04YKVIySTkeF8TtvMo PDucgyVfsrEij6dSWWGLRZuzl9qTWJPLj7JO0sSvcJhCwnZSd5ToS/fj93n6PuWjKcmF sxw32S+AIuNRSE72nhts08ugzLD0x0q66pF4WPHVXdKATRDNZKJZXmX/e5LPejJz73Fw RM3NCuBzbc5avezXmdcCg7nppd+skwTjQs8XRGn1CyUWCOQuD8TN48rZGvXSVxGxehGW z+uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx5gQpqaDPGkEvMBI3K1ACeIl1L0/s+ZpsgQC1CBOiwSeddnoVn uiGUmZEIV5g+7Sb3c4jKT54TgaxY0aArQiYl7Om8kOhUlH8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFjFcZ32go3ihMS6mMttWfbqlP4EUqpUncuAu+7PxyPgllsDqct6UiH+/KBLxkjfZbDdFZXTbc6sSB+jLPGu+4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:288:b0:1bf:9fa2:bfa3 with SMTP id i8-20020a056871028800b001bf9fa2bfa3mr1972324oae.1.1691764869585; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:41:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8238B8F039D4FFD7DCE93184F1E485EF@ftrv.se> <2fc2844e-5950-8cfc-ad08-74785d77bef5@posixcafe.org> In-Reply-To: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:40:53 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: extended webscale SOAP base shader database Subject: Re: [9front] "Touching the Artwork" strikes again Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk > I'm not a programmer (like the vast majority of people that ever used > a Unix-like operating system), and to the extent that I _can_ be > called one (is a hunt-and-peck typist "a typist"), I don't enjoy the > process. I'm not a programmer either, but I don't know why this would be relevant to unix systems, on which - as you mention - even typists can get work done easily with simple scripts, trivial tools, trivial input and output, pipes. What process are you complaining about, the process that one could have called you a programmer? What does the majority of people have to do say about our niche distributed network operating system programming environment? Why do you bring those up? Also what have these majorities ever done for US? or YOU? > And I'm not keen on touching what I think is one of the biggest programs. Some masochists will get around to it sooner or later. > And quasimodal typing seems like it would be outside of what you can > directly do with the libraries why? > Really not seeing how you got it in your head(s?) that that's in my head. It's all in our heads you say? nice continuation of the theme. > And now have I spend almost all of this thread dealing with either > strawmen or misreadings. please work on your grammar. it's impossible to tell if this is a question or exclamation. the rest was so unintelligible that I refrained from quoting it.