From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13600 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2022 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from 9front.inri.net (168.235.81.73) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Oct 2022 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from mail-vs1-f44.google.com ([209.85.217.44]) by 9front; Fri Oct 7 17:11:19 -0400 2022 Received: by mail-vs1-f44.google.com with SMTP id l127so6246063vsc.3 for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 14:11:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=py14RBNcpcFv9dt3FCL2GtehTive/wi2xw9uFvTYXSc=; b=QyPpNWz83EPax/89BbqxQPza0jIv3qundKfDz4tqA5Dnl8Gm6T8Ml5oE08a0JLRRG4 hWZ1Sp0VHSp53su/6wGmDrHPODjAVph/fbGho7UkALSmEIeOyZ3Bm+yp6XQmwZBjzZXt nRB8ELDDDBMlXkrSmh12aafqH7rSax8qESbFiTI6eYp1omNEEuFeTdlWdXqMFdIr3Jol SEcgzpYZf13T8x8EVzuvrwNq1DUPKVXAaAbVEzCFXg9yJtNVj7MQ1hAQfG/zbvEwbhfE o6zfCaL5cMgZuwQcQC+IcuQ79pMaDuN0PLLCrtVQONRY13Q7HC7ehFrafD3rMHfyuK1j 9ZBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=py14RBNcpcFv9dt3FCL2GtehTive/wi2xw9uFvTYXSc=; b=KuwOGAggju4tY+FaXUPLTyazfyslN2I3Ru7kXfjWb9W/XIFmTuz6XhWrdzog+BnoKM Yy02foI0evvENQ5eWA63YqPv7vz7TB3srHMe5gDmqC1O4fwxYp35/SvxVs7WEeSFwxOH gGMb8zdyjd3ntA9q/xFuhLBy117fHZ4Ks7Fhte3sjVdt2+InsfOLZvkxj3NfWg+t5ko1 cs69o3/BxBtfE90bcmqGEk8z85u3nAnuHCI5PRcZnQDJxzCboOZocFtZHtbYZ/hCyCQv WedFItZ8arfT/HIdZmc3OeyoH139QOXI59YpYOAFQTyyL0g6pSjRsus4AeLIoDt6QUJD 8fqg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3di/ISvmnSFjEv/MeGZiPUAzClGhc+oXzF1aDp1F0OdPTtj3Qc QsQSkFbpe1CZbtxLw9E1XIVNV9QlLldISiAsfMBKk8Cj X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM5PhUmfiaqzchmsvlTmZ6jNLgFeclEuI0nTieTuQxQy215ivXCuR2+18bcO/tDfruTP7A9STFnZ6H+5zduiWAg= X-Received: by 2002:a67:fc5a:0:b0:3a6:a59f:5e96 with SMTP id p26-20020a67fc5a000000b003a6a59f5e96mr4115032vsq.52.1665177076047; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 14:11:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:2856:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 14:11:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 23:11:15 +0200 Message-ID: To: 9front@9front.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: lifecycle database database Subject: Re: [9front] [PATCH] vt: fix home/end sequences in xterm mode Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk On 10/7/22, ori@eigenstate.org wrote: > Quoth hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>: >> i think vt isn't based on xterm. > > and that's the problem; vt has its set of bugs, and xterm has it's own set of bugs that are better not emulated. > and xterm has its quirks that we don't emulate > quite right. why do we need to care so much about xterm's quirks? can't we try to emulate a real terminal that lacks xterm's quirks? like a vt100 or vt220? what kind of programs are you running that needs xterm's quirks? > vttest fails pretty quickly when you try on vt. i was not aware of vttest. Is it more authoritative than the bugs found in xterm, vt, rxvt? when you tried this software did you set TERM to vt100? to vt220?