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Subject: Re: [9front] Thoughts on Wayland?
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> Many draw calls are the enemy of performance when it comes to GPU
> graphics. This is the main reason for needing a scene graph: first get
> the whole collection of everything that needs to go to the screen
> together into one pile, in an efficient form that is quick to traverse,
> and then traverse it and figure out how to combine the draw calls.

yes, that's already how devdraw works, you can flush whenever you
want, draw RPCs get batched, if you want.